WMG / Bayonetta 2

Balder is the closest thing to pure good in the Bayonetta universe.

It's pretty obvious that Loptr represents pure evil, having been identified as such by Loki and demonstrating it in almost every cutscene he's in. However, Loki isn't much of a paragon of pure good, being rude, crude, and deceitful; while he calls himself the "better half" of Aesir, his use of the phrase suggests he's the more powerful half, not the more benevolent (though, compared to Loptr, he certainly is).

Bayonetta and Jeanne, while exciting heroines in their own right, never exactly go on crusades to save the world; they'd rather be driven by a quest to kill the hell out of the biggest, baddest monsters around. It shows in the story, too, as the redeeming qualities that are showcased and commented upon the most tend to be their strength and combat skill. Balder is probably the best counterpart to Loptr around, given that most of his actions tend to revolve around selflessness, honor, and virtue in some way; even his quest to kill Loki is motivated by his love for Rosa and his need to avenge her death.

His belief in something greater than himself may give his combat skill an edge that Bayonetta doesn't have, as he ends every fight he has with Bayonetta in a draw or victory. Loptr is the only other character in the Bayonetta universe to hold this exact same distinction (assuming Aesir is counted as a separate entity), but this could be because he has no belief in anything greater than himself.

Of course, given how Loptr proves to be impossible for Bayonetta to defeat once and for all without help (from Loki in 2, and from Jeanne in Bayonetta while trapped within Balder), this could be the creative team's way of teaching the player that pure evil can't be overcome alone.

Some of the new Demons in Bayonetta 2 will be Fallen Angels.

Or otherwise counterparts to the Auditio.

• The demon Pride (basically a recolor of Pain) is indeed a fallen angel, and Sloth appearently is responsible for the existence of "countless fallen angels", but otherwise jossed.

Bayonetta and Luka broke up.

Think about it: Her new guns are named "Love is Blue", named after a song about a woman whose lover broke up with her, while her guns in the first were named "Scarborough Fair", named after a song about a man who falls in love with a woman. Not only that, but if you translate the writing around her ass cleavage, it says "I need to love anyone" at least twice.

• That's assuming they ever dated. I get the sense that Bayonetta intends to put that man on a rack and make him like it, but is waiting for him to grow up a bit first.
  • Provided she's not already seeing Jeanne or Rodin. She might be up for poly shenanigans, though....
    • With how Bayo and Jeanne act with each other...it could be a distinct possibility...
• Jossed, Word of God has said Bayonetta will never hook up with Luka because of the drastic age difference; she wants to avoid a Mayfly–December Romance.

While in Inferno to rescue Jeanne...

It's highly likely that we will be meeting Rosa there, as well as other fellow Umbran Witches. Be a waste of a trip, otherwise.

• Jossed, sort of. We don't meet Rosa and the other witches in Inferno. But we DO meet them during the Witch Hunts chapter.
• Also, as the game explains, an Umbra Witch's soul will be fully absorbed into Inferno in about a day, so Rosa and all the other Witches are all super dead by now. Of course, the last game kept mentioning how Witches were doomed to running around Inferno being tortured after their death, which doesn't quite jive with the second game's explanation. We don't see any sign of any Witches in Inferno other than Jeanne. I suppose there could be "ghosts" of them running around down there, but it's more likely that they get absorbed into demons, the same way that human souls get absorbed into angels in Paradiso (according to the angel book).

The boy is Egyptian and the Creators were inspired by Yugioh.

The inspiration is more obvious when you see the Millennium Puzzle. And it seems that game will feature Monsters (Angels and Demons) fighting each other already.

We are being mislead to believe Loki, the Mysterious Boy is The Overseer.

I believe The Overseer is actually Rodin. He was an angel before becoming a demon (so he's basically both), the glowing eyes motif, and pretty much everything else. Not to mention he's OP. The "mysterious boy" (now dubbed "Loki") might just be like a gatekeeper of Fimbulventr with amnesia.

• Heck, the Mysterious Boy might just be a wayyyyy younger Rodin or something. Rodin was apparently born an angel, and the boy's aura in the trailers look angelic, not to mention his clothing has angelic script if you look closely.
• The Mysterious Boy could also be a younger Masked Lumen Sage.
• Or the child could be the Masked Lumen's son
  • Jossed. We leave these WMGs here, lest we overestimate Platinum Games's plot twist capabilities

Alright, assume the title of "Eye of the World" is passed down from parent to child...

Bayonetta would be the Left Eye because she's a woman/witch. Well, with Balder, just in case he died, him being the Right Eye as well as the last Lumen Sage, he might have fathered other children throughout the years, and trained the men to keep the legacy of the Lumen going. Amongst them, one was chosen to take upon the mantle of the Right Eye and that's where the Masked Lumen comes in. That's why he's pretty OP as well. Therefore, Bayonetta is the Left Eye, the Masked Lumen is the new Right, & they are half-siblings.

Loki is blatantly The Overseer

Or at least his Avatar.

• Confirmed, though there is more to the overseer than just Loki...

Loki knows more than he lets on, but plays Bayonetta for a fool

It's right there in his name!

• Jossed. Loptr is the one playing Bayonetta for a fool, not Loki.

The Ulala costume will be unlockable.

Originally, it was planned for the first game it could an unlockable possibly.

• Jossed, but at least we get an awesome Fox McCloud costume instead!

The Lumen Sage is Bayonetta's sister.

Which would make her snarky comment to Jeanne in the first game about how she'd better not be her long lost sister Hilarious in Hindsight.

And yes, I know the Sage has a male voice. Shut up.

• Sadly, Jossed. The Lumen Sage is actually a younger version of Father Balder.

The Masked Lumen Sage will be a playable character in Tag Climax.

If he's not already in the game (and Japanese players just haven't unlocked him yet), he will be available through Downloadable Content.

• Confirmed!!!

Bayonetta takes place after Ragnarok

Why so many Norse naming schemes in a game clearly based on Medieval Christianity, which had a higher fondness for Greek and Latin? Because that is not just theme naming, but in fact are referring to remnants of the nine worlds. Alfheims are just that, parts of Alfheim that survived Surtr's fire and the resulting flood that quenched it. They've since been populated by angels because the surviving Alfar have moved on to the new world of Andalang. Aesir is just that, an Aesir who either survived Ragnarok or was reborn afterwards. Most likely one who was reborn but altered by the experience. Baldur might be a reborn Aesir too, perhaps reborn as human or not, given his toughness and being one of the few things Bayonetta could not out right beat in the last game. The new world of Ragnarok was to come with an all new god too. A powerful mighty one, who would rule over everything. If you pay close enough attention to this game, there is one character whose name is only one letter away from "One" and is said not to be related to anyone previously established. Likely not a coincidence.

Now this one might be more of a stretch but angels and demons may not even be traditionally such. Since it is implied they used to be human, which goes against what most religious canon says about them, they may in fact be einhejar and hel soldiers who are simply continuing to fight each other because that's all they really know how to do anymore. What is clear though is that in the last game "Armageddon" was referred as if it was an event rather than a place and more importantly, an event that was said to have happened many times. One modern interpretation of Ragnarok is an Eternal Recurrence. Even in the happy ending, Niddhog survives and implied to continue being a nuisance. Perhaps in Bayonetta, Ragnarok was one of those past Armageddons?

• According to the Urbane description, angels are personified abstract concepts (as their names pretty much suggest). Still, they could be Alfar, since Alfheim was the realm of light in Norse Mythology and the angels stand for light in the Bayonetta world.

Jeanne had commissioned Rodin to make Alruna as a Christmas present for Bayonetta, which is why she went after the two of them.

Alruna is one of the few weapons in either game not obtained through a Golden LP, but Rodin doesn't seem to be charging Bayonetta for weapon at all (theoretically, the reason he didn't charge for the others was because the trip to Inferno led him fighting a ton of other demons, and collecting their orbs as a result and as a sort of payment). Yet, he mentions it as a "payday," even though he just GIVES it to her. Why would he do that?

Someone else paid already - Jeanne. Rodin was working on it already and had been for what seems like some time when the game begins, meaning he'd at least been given a retainer of some sort. This also explains why Alraune wants to kill Bayonetta and Jeanne; at some point, word gets to her that an Umbra Witch has called for her destruction and conversion into a weapon (essentially slavery, as well as And I Must Scream territory), and while the power she'd gain by devouring one or the other isn't inconsiderable, it's also essential to avoid having her plans destroyed by a demon weaponsmith who had basically never failed to obtain the soul of a demon for his weapons before. That's why she sets Gomorrah free; that was her first chance to go after them.

• I'm pretty sure Alraune doesn't directly help Gomorrah free, but the rest of this sounds plausible.

The entire Bayonetta timeline.

The first Bayonetta game has you kill Father Balder and Jubileus. After that time passes and the events of Bayonetta 2 happen. After Aesir possesses Balder he goes into another dimension where the events of the first Bayonetta have just barely begun. It's an entire circle of Bayonettas and Balders.

• And the 3rd Bayonetta game will have break this circle once and for all.

Witches that aren't consumed by demons when they get to Hell eventually become demons themselves

This is why we don't see any dead witches in Hell despite the repeated mentions of having to wander Inferno forever when they die. Those witches who manage to avoid becoming a meal end up soaking up enough of Inferno's magic that they become demons themselves. This is why there's so many demons that resemble human women, they're all former witches.