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** Are Len and Rin Main/HalfIdenticalTwins, [[AlternateSelf alternate selves]], {{opposite sex clone}}s or just {{identical stranger}}s? It all depends on the song and there's no one true definite stance on the subject[[note]]Crypton did provide an official stance at one point, remarking that the Kagamines were mirror images, but they rolled back on this in favor of keeping their relationship vague due to fan backlash[[/note]]. There are also some songs that don't depict Rin and Len as two people at all, but the same person under different aliases.

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** Are Len and Rin Main/HalfIdenticalTwins, [[AlternateSelf alternate selves]], {{opposite sex clone}}s or just {{identical stranger}}s? It all depends on the song and there's no one true definite stance on the subject[[note]]Crypton did provide an official stance at one point, remarking that the Kagamines were mirror images, but they rolled back on this in favor of keeping their relationship vague due to [[FanDislikedExplanation fan backlash[[/note]].backlash]][[/note]]. There are also some songs that don't depict Rin and Len as two people at all, but the same person under different aliases.
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** Saying that Flower, Gumi, Gakupo, IA or any of the Crypton characters (with the exception of Miku, Rin and Len) are underrated, more specifically with Flower and Gumi, as they are usually considered the most popular voice banks.

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-->'''Kaito:''' No matter how so many people replace me, even on this wide route\\
'''Len:''' We were able to pair without hesitation, it's caused by you and me\\
''(later...)''\\
'''Both:''' Until we can resonate with each other again\\

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-->'''Kaito:''' No matter how so many people replace me, even on this wide route\\
'''Len:''' We were able to pair without hesitation, it's caused by you and me\\
''(later...)''\\
'''Both:'''
-->'''Both:''' Until we can resonate with each other again\\

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** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while gazing lovingly into each other's eyes. Halyosy leaves it somewhat unclear if the meaning of the song is meant to be taken as romantic or platonic (the song itself is about coping with someone you care about leaving for an extended period), but the visuals are intimate enough that it's easy to draw [[YaoiGuys certain conclusions...]]

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** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while gazing lovingly into each other's eyes. Halyosy leaves it somewhat unclear if the meaning of the song is meant to be taken as romantic or platonic (the song itself is about coping with someone you care about leaving for an extended period), but the visuals are intimate enough that it's easy to draw [[YaoiGuys certain conclusions...]]]] The lyrics make it even ''more'' interesting, if you know what they mean in English:
-->'''Kaito:''' No matter how so many people replace me, even on this wide route\\
'''Len:''' We were able to pair without hesitation, it's caused by you and me\\
''(later...)''\\
'''Both:''' Until we can resonate with each other again\\
'''Len:''' Let me sing the following words of my love
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** Some fans tend to feminize flower's V3 design by giving her additional curves and downplaying her boyish appearance.

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** Some fans tend to feminize flower's V3 V4 design by giving her additional curves and downplaying her boyish appearance.appearance. As she has plenty of more feminine designs before and after this one, it's an odd fixation.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5BhK8JUCi8 "Magical☆Kitty Len Len!"]] pre-dates [[WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug Chat Noir]] by about six years. Even better, the song calls him a miracle!
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** Miku/Luka is rejected by many Western fans due to Miku and Luka officially being 16 and 20, respectively, making Miku a teenager and Luka a legal adult. While their ages are [[DependingOnTheWriter not fixed and (like with most things Vocaloid) is prone to change depending on the work]] (for example, ''Project Sekai'' ages Luka down to a teenager around Miku's age in the School Sekai), the fact that their ages are "official" is enough to make many fans too uncomfortable to entertain the ship, regardless of how solid they are.
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** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while gazing lovingly into each other's eyes.

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** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while gazing lovingly into each other's eyes. Halyosy leaves it somewhat unclear if the meaning of the song is meant to be taken as romantic or platonic (the song itself is about coping with someone you care about leaving for an extended period), but the visuals are intimate enough that it's easy to draw [[YaoiGuys certain conclusions...]]
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** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while gazing lovingly into each other's eyes.
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For tropes related to Music/HatsuneMiku, go [[YMMV/HatsuneMiku here]].

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For tropes YMMV related to Music/HatsuneMiku, go [[YMMV/HatsuneMiku here]].

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** Claiming that the Crypton Vocaloids originated from ''VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva'' and ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai'' is a very quick way to rile up fans.

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** Claiming that the Crypton Vocaloids Vocaloid characters originated from ''VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva'' and ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai'' is a very quick way to rile up fans.


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** Calling the characters "[[BrandNameTakeover Vocaloids]]" is not a wise move unless you want to annoy the fanbase. The characters are officially classified as "voicebanks" (or Virtual Singers), not "Vocaloids". "Vocaloid" is the software that runs the voicebanks, not the voicebanks themselves.
** Saying that Len and Rin are siblings is okay as {{fanon}}, but don't try and suggest that they are ''officially'' siblings unless you want to kick a bee hive and likely invoke the wrath of the Rin/Len shippers, who will point out that their relationship with each other is deliberately [[AmbiguouslyRelated meant to be vague and that they are not officially siblings]].
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** All over the place, due to the [[BlankSlate nature]] of the Vocaloid as BlankSlate. Kaito, for example, has been interpreted as a [[TheCasanova suave ladies' man]], a [[TheDitz total goofball]], an AxCrazy {{Yandere}} and a powerful hero in various fanworks. This trope is taken up to eleven in the RhythmGame ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai: Colorful Stage'', in which the Crypton Virtual Singers' personalities vary heavily depending on which SEKAI [[note]]World born from the collective feelings of each [[OriginalGeneration main group]].[[/note]] they appear in.

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** All over the place, due to the [[BlankSlate nature]] of the Vocaloid Voice Banks as BlankSlate. Kaito, for example, has been interpreted as a [[TheCasanova suave ladies' man]], a [[TheDitz total goofball]], an AxCrazy {{Yandere}} and a powerful hero in various fanworks. This trope is taken up to eleven in the RhythmGame ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai: Colorful Stage'', in which the Crypton Virtual Singers' personalities vary heavily depending on which SEKAI [[note]]World born from the collective feelings of each [[OriginalGeneration main group]].[[/note]] they appear in.



** Robotic tuning versus Realistic tuning. Some find the robotic sounding voices to be a part of what makes Vocaloid charming compared to real singers, while others find the robotic tuning to be offputting and prefer the characters to have more natural sounding voices instead. This debate would especially heat up when Crypton left Vocaloid because [[CreativeDifferences the former wanted to keep the voices robotic, while the latter wanted to embrace more realistic sounding vocals]].

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** Robotic tuning versus Realistic tuning. Some find the robotic sounding robotic-sounding voices to be a part of what makes Vocaloid charming compared to real singers, while others find the robotic tuning to be offputting and prefer the characters to have more natural sounding natural-sounding voices instead. This debate would especially heat up when Crypton left Vocaloid because [[CreativeDifferences the former wanted to keep the voices robotic, while the latter wanted to embrace more realistic sounding vocals]].



** In the olden days of Vocaloids popularity, [[SixthRanger Gumi and Gakupo were treated as a part of the Crypton Vocaloid group]], to the point that some people had begun to believe they ''were'' from the same company.

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** In the olden days of Vocaloids Vocaloid's popularity, [[SixthRanger Gumi and Gakupo were treated as a part of the Crypton Vocaloid group]], to the point that some people had begun to believe they ''were'' from the same company.



** While it is true that Vocaloids gained a massive popularity boost in Japan that helped spread its usage wide, it didn't ''originate'' there. The first couple of Vocaloids were English-speaking and were used as background singers for certain projects as well, such as using LOLA in ''Anime/{{Paprika}}''.

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** While it is true that Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks gained a massive popularity boost in Japan that helped spread its usage wide, it didn't ''originate'' there. The first couple of Vocaloids were English-speaking and were used as background singers for certain projects as well, such as using LOLA in ''Anime/{{Paprika}}''.



** Applies to all of the Crypton Vocaloids, as they're the most recognizable of any Vocaloids' released and each has a dedicated fanbase that supports them as they would real idols.
** Original fan-made derivatives turned semi-official Vocaloids Haku Yowane and Neru Akita are both very popular with fans, to the point that they are more popular and recognized than some of the ''actual Vocaloids''.
** IA can be considered this, as she was the first Vocaloid released to have broken Miku and Gumi's reign over the NND charts due to her association with Jin's Kagerou Project series. Though she's since been dethroned by v flower, she still remains one of the more popular and beloved characters and is still seen with the Crypton and Internet characters in fanworks fairly frequently.
** Bizu, the cartoony, imp-like character featured in the "Snobbism" PV by Neru, is so well-loved and iconic that he gets just as much fanwork as many of the Vocaloids themselves. It's not uncommon for fanart to depict Bizu alongside the Vocaloids, and even people that hate original-character-focused [=PVs=] will make an exception for "Snobbism".

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** Applies to all of the Crypton Vocaloids, Vocaloid voicebanks, as they're the most recognizable of any Vocaloids' voicebank's released and each has a dedicated fanbase that supports them as they would real idols.
** Original fan-made derivatives turned semi-official Vocaloids voicebanks Haku Yowane and Neru Akita are both very popular with fans, to the point that they are more popular and recognized than some of the ''actual Vocaloids''.
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** IA can be considered this, as she was the first Vocaloid voicebank released to have broken Miku and Gumi's reign over the NND charts due to her association with Jin's Kagerou Project series. Though she's since been dethroned by v flower, she still remains one of the more popular and beloved characters and is still seen with the Crypton and Internet characters in fanworks fairly frequently.
** Bizu, the cartoony, imp-like character featured in the "Snobbism" PV by Neru, is so well-loved and iconic that he gets just as much fanwork as many of the Vocaloids voicebanks themselves. It's not uncommon for fanart to depict Bizu alongside the Vocaloids, and even people that hate original-character-focused [=PVs=] will make an exception for "Snobbism".



** Confusing Vocaloids with their competing software counterparts ([=CeVIO=], [=SynthV=], UTAU) is a sure way to get swiftly corrected.
** Crediting a song to the Vocaloid who sung it instead of the producer who actually made it (like for example, crediting World is Mine to Hatsune Miku instead of Ryo and Supercell) has become this in more recent memory and making such a move will likely get you swiftly corrected by irate fans.

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** Confusing Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks with their competing software counterparts ([=CeVIO=], [=SynthV=], UTAU) is a sure way to get swiftly corrected.
** Crediting a song to the Vocaloid voicebank who sung sang it instead of the producer who actually made it (like for example, crediting World is Mine to Hatsune Miku instead of Ryo and Supercell) has become this in more recent memory and making such a move will likely is an easy way to get you swiftly corrected by irate fans.fans and to become regarded as a "noob" amongst the fandom.



** Lesser known Vocaloids or Vocaloids with lesser known providers sometimes get the derisive nickname of "Wholoids" or "Literally Wholoids".
** Crypton's Vocaloids are often referred to as "Cryptonloids" by fans.

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** Lesser known Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks or Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks with lesser known providers sometimes get the derisive nickname of "Wholoids" or "Literally Wholoids".
** Crypton's Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks are often referred to as given the term "Cryptonloids" by fans.fans. This only increased when Crypton announced their departure from Vocaloid to form their own software, with some using it as a term to distinguish Crypton's characters from the rest of the voicebanks.



* {{Fanon}}: Vocaloids might just be the greatest example ever of this trope. Absolutely nothing save for the designs and the voices were determined by WordOfGod. Crypton ''even'' backpedaled on their statement that the [[MeaningfulName Kagamines were mirror images]].

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* {{Fanon}}: Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks might just be the greatest example ever of this trope. Absolutely nothing save for the designs and the voices were determined by WordOfGod. Crypton ''even'' backpedaled on their statement that the [[MeaningfulName Kagamines were mirror images]].



** Due to the English Vocaloids released before Sonika not having a full body avatar, the fandom takes it upon themselves to sketch up various designs for the Engloids. A similar situation is displayed when fans design an image for [=VY1=] and [=VY2=], as they are the first Japanese Vocaloids to not have a full body avatar on their boxart, similar to Leon and Lola. Fans of the pair often also associate them with the characters in their design contests, Kobushi Kiku and 66 (pronounced "Roro"), though 66 is used more often than Kobushi in art.

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** Due to the English Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks released before Sonika not having a full body avatar, the fandom takes it upon themselves to sketch up various designs for the Engloids. A similar situation is displayed when fans design an image for [=VY1=] and [=VY2=], as they are the first Japanese Vocaloids Vocaloid voicebanks to not have a full body avatar on their boxart, similar to Leon and Lola. Fans of the pair often also associate them with the characters in their design contests, Kobushi Kiku and 66 (pronounced "Roro"), though 66 is used more often than Kobushi in art.



** While some [=VOCALOIDs=] get redesigns for updated installments, they're rarely accepted over their original design. For example, Hatsune Miku's [=V2=] design is treated as the definitive design for the character despite the various design updates she received after it, with this being extended to even how Crypton promotes her themselves. However, flower got hit hard with this trope when her [=V4=] design came out; many artists vastly preferred her short do and boyish looks compared to her goth-rock ensemble for [=V3=], to the point where it's rare to see fans acknowledging her original design. Flower got hit with this again when her Talkloid design came out, giving her a mix of a feminine but also tomboyish appearance. That said, while the design is once again more popular than her [=V3=] design, it still has yet to overtake flower's widely accepted [=V4=] design.

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** While some [=VOCALOIDs=] Vocaloid voicebanks get redesigns for updated installments, they're rarely accepted over their original design. For example, Hatsune Miku's [=V2=] design is treated as the definitive design for the character despite the various design updates she received after it, with this being extended to even how Crypton promotes her themselves. However, flower got hit hard with this trope when her [=V4=] design came out; many artists vastly preferred her short do and boyish looks compared to her goth-rock ensemble for [=V3=], to the point where it's rare to see fans acknowledging her original design. Flower got hit with this again when her Talkloid design came out, giving her a mix of a feminine but also tomboyish appearance. That said, while the design is once again more popular than her [=V3=] design, it still has yet to overtake flower's widely accepted [=V4=] design.

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** Despite being competing software, Vocaloid fans are fairly lax about the existence of Cevio AI, NEUTRINO, [=SynthV=], and other singing synthesizer software, so much so that you can find many songs that use them in "Vocalopost" tags on social media without issue. It likely helps that many Vocaloid producers have begun to use Cevio AI along with Vocaloid recently, including using both in some songs.

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** Despite being competing software, Vocaloid fans are fairly lax about the existence of Cevio AI, NEUTRINO, [=SynthV=], and other singing synthesizer software, so much so that you can find many songs that use them in "Vocalopost" tags on social media without issue. It likely helps that many Vocaloid producers have begun to use Cevio AI along with Vocaloid recently, starting from the late 2010s, including using both in some songs.songs.
** Vocaloid's longest lasting fandom alliance would be with the UTAU userbase, since UTAU started as a free alternative to Vocaloid and Kasane Teto in particular often got used in Vocaloid compositions.
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** While GUMI is meant to be a [[GenderFlip guy]] in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.

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** While GUMI is meant supposed to be a [[GenderFlip guy]] boy in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.
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** While GUMI is meant to be a [[CrossDressingVoices guy]] in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.

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** While GUMI is meant to be a [[CrossDressingVoices [[GenderFlip guy]] in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.
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** While GUMI is meant to be a guy in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.

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** While GUMI is meant to be a guy [[CrossDressingVoices guy]] in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip, means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy.

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* FaceOfTheBand: For most non-Vocaloid listeners, Vocaloid ''is'' Miku. And it's not for nothing, as she is the biggest [[CashCowFranchise cash cow character]] to be born out of the software, having several video games, various mobile apps, live concerts, [[UsefulNotes/MikuMikuDance software that was created to be focused on making music videos for her]], and tons of merch. She's no slouch when it comes to non-commercial things either, as she simultaneously has the 13th highest tag count on Pixiv at over ''500 thousand'', beating out the VOCALOID tag itself which is primarily filled with fan-art of her, along with having the highest fan-art count of any character on the website. She's also currently the only Vocaloid [[Music/HatsuneMiku to have a separate page]] on this very wiki.

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For most non-Vocaloid listeners, Vocaloid ''is'' Miku. And it's not for nothing, as she is the biggest [[CashCowFranchise cash cow character]] to be born out of the software, having several video games, various mobile apps, live concerts, [[UsefulNotes/MikuMikuDance software that was created to be focused on making music videos for her]], and tons of merch. She's no slouch when it comes to non-commercial things either, as she simultaneously has the 13th highest tag count on Pixiv at over ''500 thousand'', beating out the VOCALOID tag itself which is primarily filled with fan-art of her, along with having the highest fan-art count of any character on the website. She's also currently the only Vocaloid [[Music/HatsuneMiku to have a separate page]] on this very wiki.
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* BetterThanCanon: Many original Vocaloid have cover songs sung by other Vocaloids. Many of these covers are regarded as better than the original ones.
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* BetterThanCanon: Many original Vocaloid have cover songs sung by other Vocaloids. Many of these covers are regarded as better than the original ones.
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** The UTAU Namine Ritsu's version of the song "-ERROR" by niki has largely overshadowed the original version, which was sung by Lily. Same goes for "The Wanderlast" by [=sasakure.UK]=], which was originally sung by Luka.

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** The UTAU Namine Ritsu's version of the song "-ERROR" by niki has largely overshadowed the original version, which was sung by Lily. Same goes for "The Wanderlast" by [=sasakure.UK]=], Music/SasakureUK, which was originally sung by Luka.
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* AccidentaNightmareFuel: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7a0hRXCuqg Vocalawson Desu]]. [[BrokenRecord Dear]] [[UnintentionalUncannyValley god]], Vocalawson Desu.

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* AccidentaNightmareFuel: AccidentalNightmareFuel: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7a0hRXCuqg Vocalawson Desu]]. [[BrokenRecord Dear]] [[UnintentionalUncannyValley god]], Vocalawson Desu.
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This song always scared me as a kid. "Your value is nothing, just kidding, I love you" and the repeating of "I love you" and her odd repetition SCREAMS Unintentional Uncanny Valley

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* AccidentaNightmareFuel: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7a0hRXCuqg Vocalawson Desu]]. [[BrokenRecord Dear]] [[UnintentionalUncannyValley god]], Vocalawson Desu.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: Along with [=Vocaloid6=] dropping out of nowhere without any prior notice or advertising leading up to it, no one expected GUMI of all voicebanks to be one of the first voicebanks released on the program, let alone for her to be an AI voicebank.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: Along with [=Vocaloid6=] [=VOCALOID6=] dropping out of nowhere without any prior notice or advertising leading up to it, no one expected GUMI of all voicebanks to be one of the first voicebanks released on the program, let alone for her to be an AI voicebank.

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* UnintentionalUncannyValley: The Vocaloid voices can certainly dip into this, if their composer doesn't play a few tricks with their voice quality first.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: Along with [=Vocaloid6=] dropping out of nowhere without any prior notice or advertising leading up to it, no one expected GUMI of all voicebanks to be one of the first voicebanks released on the program, let alone for her to be an AI voicebank.
* UnintentionalUncannyValley: The Vocaloid voices can certainly dip into this, this if their composer doesn't play a few tricks with their voice quality first.first.



** For some, any Vocaloid song can qualify because of the lack of tonal variation that doesn't come with a natural speaking/singing voice. It's very easy to tell apart a human voice and a Vocaloid voice.

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** For some, any Vocaloid song can qualify because of the lack of tonal variation that doesn't come with a natural speaking/singing voice. It's very easy to tell apart a human voice and a Vocaloid voice. [=Vocaloid6=] has attempted to address this issue, as it utilizes AI technology in order to give it's voicebanks a more natural sound.

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** Kokone got comparisons with her predecessor Gumi after her demo was released. It doesn't help that both are from the same company (Internet Co). Unfortunately, it was also repeated during Chika's release, with the added handicap of being released within the same timespan.

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** While not as bad as some examples, Otomachi Una got some flack for being another twin tail voicebank with blue hair. This eventually calmed down due to her voice and appearance being distinct from Hatsune Miku's actual design, however.

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* ObscurePopularity: Luo Tianyl. She has a large fanbase in China and several songs with millions of views (even a few with over 10 million), however, these are largely unknown to the Vocaloid fanbase outside of China, especially when it comes to her songs that are exclusively uploaded to Bilibili.
** In fact, this applies to any popular non-Crypton Future Media voice bank, as popular as a voice bank does not necessarily translate to popularity as a mascot. For example, Gumi has some of the most popular Vocaloid songs of all time. However, the mascot attached to the voicebank is less known and far less talked about than the more recognizable Hatsune Miku. In recent years following a revival of interest in her, this also applies to flower, as some Vocaloid fans don't even recognize the mascot despite being a fan of some of her biggest hits.



** KAITO, MEIKO, and Luka are starting to gain traction as this as well, being the three oldest looking Crypton characters. Similarly, it's not uncommon to see Miku paired with both Kagamines.

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** KAITO, MEIKO, and Luka are starting to gain traction as this as well, being the three oldest looking oldest-looking Crypton characters. Similarly, it's not uncommon to see Miku paired with both Kagamines.
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** While Rin/Len was once a FanPreferredCouple pretty much everywhere, this was flipped on its head in the western fanbase in recent years due to the rise in young moral crusaders in fandoms and the spread of the now common misconception that Rin and Len are canonically considered siblings. Admitting that you ship the pair or simply do not care that others do will get you questionable looks in the best-case scenario and even outright attacked if you stumble across the wrong crowd. As well, like most things when it comes to Vocaloid "canon", the fact that [[WordOfGod Crypton]] has acknowledged the ship and even passively supports it in their official media tends to be ignored by those that are vehemently against both the ship and anyone that likes it.

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** While Rin/Len was once a FanPreferredCouple popular ship pretty much everywhere, this was flipped on its head in the western fanbase in recent years due to the rise in young moral crusaders in fandoms and the spread of the now common misconception that Rin and Len are canonically considered siblings. Admitting that you ship the pair or simply do not care that others do will get you questionable looks in the best-case scenario and even outright attacked if you stumble across the wrong crowd. As well, like most things when it comes to Vocaloid "canon", the fact that [[WordOfGod Crypton]] has acknowledged the ship and even passively supports it in their official media tends to be ignored by those that are vehemently against both the ship and anyone that likes it.

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Renamed trope


* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Luo Tianyi, Yan He or [=SeeU=] doing a cover of "Senbonzakura" if you see it in [[UsefulNotes/FirstSinoJapaneseWar a]] [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Chinese]] and [[UsefulNotes/KoreansInJapan Korean]] perspective. The song was actually removed from the Korean release of ''[[VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva Project Mirai DX]]'' specifically to avoid this.


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* HarsherInHindsight: Luo Tianyi, Yan He or [=SeeU=] doing a cover of "Senbonzakura" if you see it in [[UsefulNotes/FirstSinoJapaneseWar a]] [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Chinese]] and [[UsefulNotes/KoreansInJapan Korean]] perspective. The song was actually removed from the Korean release of ''[[VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva Project Mirai DX]]'' specifically to avoid this.
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Absolute Cleavage was renamed to Navel Deep Neckline. Only examples with context that fit the trope are kept. Removed sinkholes.


* FetishRetardant: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6M2ppKwuZY "Nehanshika"]] features AbsoluteCleavage bearing Miku and [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] Gakupo. [[EyeScream Not nearly]] [[MindScrew as hot]] [[HumanoidAbomination as it sounds]].

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* FetishRetardant: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6M2ppKwuZY "Nehanshika"]] features AbsoluteCleavage cleavage bearing Miku and [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] Gakupo. [[EyeScream Not nearly]] [[MindScrew nearly as hot]] [[HumanoidAbomination hot as it sounds]].sounds.

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