| 1 | For YMMV related to Music/HatsuneMiku, go [[YMMV/HatsuneMiku here]]. |
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| 3 | * {{Adorkable}}: Kaito is portrayed as a big doofy goof who can be somewhat childish, though the latter isn't always the case. There's an entire tag on Pixiv and Niconico, "Bakaito" (a portmanteau of "stupid" and "Kaito") of him being a dork, awkward, or TheDitz. This is possibly acknowledged officially even, as he trips in ''Project Mirai'', as mentioned below. As well, ''VideoGame/ProjectSEKAI'' has acknowledged this about him, as his Vivid BAD SQUAD alternate version is a GeniusDitz. |
| 4 | * AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: All over the place, due to the nature of voice banks as BlankSlate. |
| 5 | ** Kaito has been interpreted as a [[TheCasanova suave ladies' man]], a [[TheDitz total goofball]], an AxCrazy {{Yandere}} and a powerful hero in various fanworks. This trope is taken up to eleven in the RhythmGame ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai: Colorful Stage'', in which the Crypton Virtual Singers' personalities vary heavily depending on which SEKAI [[note]]World born from the collective feelings of each [[OriginalGeneration main group]].[[/note]] they appear in. |
| 6 | ** In the video for "Hitogawari", the girl keeps rubbing her face with her hands -- is she wiping away her tears, or scratching her face as SelfHarm? The bandages that keep appearing on her face imply it's the latter, but it could be both. |
| 7 | ** Are Len and Rin Main/HalfIdenticalTwins, [[AlternateSelf alternate selves]], {{opposite sex clone}}s or just {{identical stranger}}s? It all depends on the song and there's no one true definite stance on the subject[[note]]Crypton did provide an official stance at one point, remarking that the Kagamines were mirror images, but they rolled back on this in favor of keeping their relationship vague due to [[FanDislikedExplanation fan backlash]][[/note]]. There are also some songs that don't depict Rin and Len as two people at all, but the same person under different aliases. |
| 8 | ** While GUMI is [[GenderFlip intended to be a boy]] in "[[https://youtu.be/V8Ym3wzRU0A First Love Academy]]", which centers around a love triangle in which Len and GUMI fight for Rin's love, the fact that GUMI is officially a girl and her voice remains unchanged in spite of the GenderFlip means the triangle in the song can easily be interpreted as a BisexualLoveTriangle, with GUMI being a {{Bifauxnen}} instead of a guy. |
| 9 | * AlternateSelfShipping: |
| 10 | ** Vocaloid fanfiction and fanart tends to use this trope, mainly because the fandom likes creating Opposite Sex Clones of the official characters. A favorite pairing is Len×Rin, an official pair of "mirrored images", which may overlap with [[BrotherSisterIncest Brother–Sister Incest]] depending on how they're written. And even they have their own fanmade gender-swapped clones in "Lenka" and "Rinto", who don't look like just a second pair of the originals. |
| 11 | ** Shipping Vocaloids with fanmade gender-swapped counterparts was a common trend in the fandom for a long time, though it fell out of practice later when the number of official Vocaloids grew. There are still pockets of shippers for these pairs here and there, but they're not as widespread as they once were. Sometimes there are even full-on songs about them. |
| 12 | ** It is fairly common for fans to ship different incarnations of certain characters from different songs with each other. |
| 13 | * AmericansHateTingle: VOCALOID does not have the same craze-level following or cultural relevance in the West as it does in Japan. The Japanese music scene is comfortable with the idea of manufactured Idol Singers, but many Americans aren't. Japan also has a robot-focused culture, viewing automata as objects imbued with life by human ingenuity, so a singing computer seems like a joyful, utopian idea. In the West, where robots and [=AIs=] are viewed as creepy and exploitative if they replace people. Lastly, making convincing synthesised speech is easier in Japanese, with its low number of phonemes and syllable-based writing system. English has a lot more phonemes and spelling quirks, meaning that even [=VOCALOIDs=] designed for English speech seem to have thick, unidentifiable accents if they're even intelligible at all. This is even noticeable with English [=VOCALOIDs=] like CYBER DIVA and Sweet Ann who were designed specifically to have American accents. Hatsune Miku would [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff gain some traction in America]] (enough to appear on The Late Show with David Letterman in 2014 and for her video games to get localized), but even so, her popularity in America is very niche compared to her near mainstream level of popularity in Japan. |
| 14 | * BaseBreakingCharacter: While many voicebanks are this to some degree, flower in particular has earned something of an infamous reputation for being incredibly polarizing. This largely has to do with her famously raspy voice, which can be politely described as an acquired taste, with ''extremely'' fierce arguments between fans who love her sound and others who hate it. |
| 15 | * BrokenBase: |
| 16 | ** Robotic tuning versus Realistic tuning. Some find the robotic-sounding voices to be a part of what makes Vocaloid charming compared to real singers, while others find the robotic tuning to be off-putting and prefer the characters to have more natural-sounding voices instead. This debate would especially heat up when Crypton left Vocaloid because [[CreativeDifferences the former wanted to keep the voices robotic, while the latter wanted to embrace more realistic sounding vocals]]. |
| 17 | ** In spite of WordOfGod coming out long ago to tell people that it's up to one's own interpretation, Len and Rin's relationship with each other has been subject to debate for years, especially after Vocaloid had begun to gain traction in the west. Some fans interpret them as siblings due to their similar appearance and shared last names, while there are other camps that believe they're {{IdenticalStranger}}s or gender bends of each other. These debates can become heated, with some even being verbally attacked for shipping the two romantically, which isn't helped by the fact that Len and Rin being siblings is a commonly held belief despite not being the case canonically. |
| 18 | ** Arguments about the gender identities of flower and Meika Hime & Mikoto happen quite often, as no one can seem to agree on what WordOfGod meant when describing them. In flower's case, while she's been confirmed as female with an androgynous voice by GYNOID, some fans view her as transgender due to her boyish V4 design, not helped by the fact that the design itself was based on a gender-bent fan design of her. In the cases of Meika Hime & Mikoto, they are described as "free of gender" due to being spirits. This has led to arguments on whether that means they're nonbinary or if their genders are up to interpretation. The fact that both characters are female-presenting has only further added to the backlash, as they are frequently "misgendered" as female. |
| 19 | ** How seriously should official sources and WordOfGod be taken? While it is true that most virtual singers are intended to be interpretive {{blank slate}}s,[[note]]Though [[CommonKnowledge contrary to popular belief, not all of them are]], as some virtual singers do have officially fleshed out backgrounds and personalities.[[/note]] that hasn't stopped Crypton and other companies from providing official info about their characters, such as their ages, general personalities, relationships, etc. This has divided the fandom on whether to accept these facts, the "canonicity" of the statements, and if it matters. Some fans don't take issue with this and accept the bits of info as "canon", while others argue it nullifies the point of them being {{blank slate}}s, with many being quick to [[FanonDiscontinuity reject such info]] (especially if it doesn't align with {{fanon}}). Unsurprisingly, these debates often devolve into mudslinging from both sides. |
| 20 | * CommonCrossover: A few types. |
| 21 | ** It's very common for people to use Vocaloids from different companies in the same songs. For example, a number of the most famous Vocaloid duets feature Miku and Gumi despite their voicebanks being from different companies. This eventually culminated into several official collaborations like Gumi's appearance in ''Project Mirai'' and the ''Digital Stars 2021'' collaboration. |
| 22 | ** Song-wise, it's very common for Vocaloid producers to use voicebanks from other programs in the same songs as the Vocaloids. For example, Nilfruits' "Baba Yaga" features both Flower and [=CeVIO=]'s KAFU. |
| 23 | ** In the olden days of Vocaloid's popularity, [[SixthRanger Gumi and Gakupo were treated as a part of the Crypton Vocaloid group]], to the point that some people had begun to believe they ''were'' from the same company. |
| 24 | * CommonKnowledge: |
| 25 | ** While it is true that Vocaloid voicebanks gained a massive popularity boost in Japan that helped spread its usage wide, it didn't ''originate'' there. The first couple of Vocaloids were English-speaking and were used as background singers for certain projects as well, such as using LOLA in ''Anime/{{Paprika}}''. The engine itself was initially developed in Spain. |
| 26 | ** Gumi and Gakupo, while they may be treated as {{Sixth Ranger}}s to the Crypton Vocaloids, are not part of V2's Character Vocal series and are Internet Co. creations. The series they belong to is called the Character ''Artist'' series. |
| 27 | ** When "Nyanyanyanyanyanyanya!" got popular through its use in the Nyan Cat video, several news sources and netizens claimed Miku was the one who sang it. While Miku did sing the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Til6kcoY0Yk original version]], the song used in the video was a cover by the Music/{{UTAU}} Momone Momo. |
| 28 | ** Miku's fanon TrademarkFavoriteFood is leeks, right? It's actually a welsh onion, more specifically a naga-negi, which does somewhat resemble a leek. |
| 29 | ** Wowaka is not the original creator of Hatsune Miku (or by extension, the other Crypton Future Media Virtual Singers). Sasaki Wataru, [[OnlyKnownByTheirNickname known by fans as Wat]], is. This misconception came along after the death of famous Vocaloid producer Wowaka, due to his death being a ''huge'' deal within the community, but especially to veteran Vocaloid fans. Newer Vocaloid fans or people outside the scene came to believe that he either created Miku due to the mentions of her when eulogizing him or that he had a hand in her creation. Neither are true, though he played a big part in getting Miku out there, with him being considered one of the pioneers of the Vocaloid community through his songs such as "Rolling Girl". |
| 30 | ** It's a common misconception that Hatsune Miku is the first Vocaloid, especially among newer Vocaloid fans. As mentioned above, the first Vocaloids were Leon and Lola, who were released in 2004. The first Japanese Vocaloid was MEIKO, who was also released in 2004 though 6 months later in November. Miku isn't even the second Japanese Vocaloid, as KAITO, who also doubled as the first Japanese male Vocaloid, would be released a little over a year later in after MEIKO in February 2006. Miku wouldn't make her debut until 2007, 4 years after the first Japanese Vocaloid was released. She isn't even the first Vocaloid2 voicebank - that would be Sweet Ann. The confusion likely comes from Miku's 01 tattoo, which is supposed to denote her as the first in the Character Vocal Series. |
| 31 | ** Miku (16), Len and Rin (14), and Luka (20) are the only Crypton Vocaloids with official ages. While KAITO and MEIKO are widely believed to be adults due to their voices and appearances, they have never been given official ages by WordOfGod. As well, while it is a common misconception, KAITO is not 50 years old or a middle-aged man; that was KEI Garou's gag headcanon for his comedic, unofficial book. Even the Character Vocal Series' ages are [[DependingOnTheWriter not completely set in stone]], as Miku and the Kagamines have been depicted drinking alcohol or holding office jobs, and Luka has been depicted as a high schooler in some official media and merchandise. |
| 32 | ** While it is a popular belief that persists to this day, KAITO's last name is not "Shion", as that was a term used to refer to him during the 2007-2009 period of Vocaloid by fans. Like MEIKO, [[OnlyOneName he officially does not have a last name]]. |
| 33 | ** Kagamine Len and Rin being siblings has been a commonly held belief for many people, especially those who joined the Vocaloid community long after WordOfGod cleared things up. In actuality, while Crypton initially described them as mirror images, they eventually walked back on this due to the backlash they received and left their relationship to each other up to interpretation. |
| 34 | ** A widely held belief is the idea that Vocaloids are inherently {{blank slate}}s with no official personalities and backstories. While this is true for a good chunk of them, to say ''all'' of them are blank slates isn't exactly true, as a few of them do have official personalities and backstories, such as several of the Chinese Vocaloids and Megurine Luka (who is stated to be coolheaded and mysterious). Even Music/HatsuneMiku has an official backstory provided by WordOfGod, explaining that she is an Android from a future without music and who came to the present to spread her love of music to prevent that future from occurring. Granted, Miku's backstory has since largely fallen into CanonDiscontinuity and isn't acknowledged by Crypton these days, but it does exist. |
| 35 | * CoveredUp: Cover versions of famous Vocaloid songs are especially popular in the Vocaloid community, with hundreds able to be searched up on Youtube alone. |
| 36 | ** The Gakupo cover of "Turkish March Owata" has become so popular that some people [[FanonDiscontinuity refuse to even acknowledge]] the original Miku version of the song - ''[[UpdatedRerelease by the same artist]]''. Which is to say nothing of the fact that a lot of English-speaking fans seem to forget that the reason the words "Turkish March" are in there is because it's a lyrical version of a classical piece by the same name. |
| 37 | ** The [[Music/{{UTAU}} Momo Momone]] version of "Nyanyanyanya!" is far more popular than [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxmMG5fpFkU the Miku original]], mostly due to its use in the memetic Nyan Cat video. |
| 38 | ** Miku's version of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbbA9BhCTko Ievan Polka]]" is more well known than the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI original]]. |
| 39 | ** Manbou-P's "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIalKKCbKGU A Clingy Boy Sticking for 15 Years]]" was originally a Miku song, but it's far better known by its [=VY2=] cover by the same producer. |
| 40 | ** "From a Miniature Garden Where the Dragon Howls" ([[TranslationTrainwreck Often mistranslated as "From the Sandplay Singing of the Dragon"]]) was originally a Miku song but the Gakupo/Kaito/Len remix is far more popular. |
| 41 | ** The UTAU Namine Ritsu's version of the song "-ERROR" by niki has largely overshadowed the original version, which was sung by Lily. Same goes for "The Wanderlast" by Music/SasakureUK, which was originally sung by Luka. |
| 42 | ** Among western fans, "Kaito Ga Uninstall", a {{yandere}} parody of "Uninstall" from ''Anime/{{Bokurano}}'', is more well known than the original and some are unaware it's a cover of an anime song. This is likely due to the fact the anime was subject to NoExportForYou for quite a while until Creator/DiscotekMedia picked it up eight years later. |
| 43 | ** Luka's version of "Akahitoha". The song was originally by Miku and fairly popular, however Luka's version went on to be more famous and associated with her as a result of it's popularity. |
| 44 | ** Len's version of "Migikata no Chou", known to western fans as "Butterfly on your Right Shoulder". The original is by Rin Kagamine, though a Len Kagamine version by the same producer that changes several aspects of the song was released a month later. While both versions of the song are fairly popular, Len's version went on to become more famous and used more in official materials. It's gotten to the point where some fans, primarily westerns, don't even know that the Rin version exists or that it's the original. |
| 45 | ** The popularity of cover songs in the Vocaloid community also launched the trend of ''utaite'', human singers who primarily cover Vocaloid songs on Youtube and Niconicodouga as a hobby. Some utaite songs' view counts have even surpassed that of the origin song, such as Reol's self-cover of "Hibikase". |
| 46 | ** Yasuo-P 's Electric Angel" is originally a Miku song. However, Giga-P's remix that used Rin and Len is much more famous, to the point some people have mistaken it as the original. The same goes for Giga's remix of the Mikito-P song "1, 2 Fanclub" using Miku and Len, although to a lesser extent. |
| 47 | * DieForOurShip: |
| 48 | ** Miku gets a lot of hate from hardcore shippers of different pairings. When she is paired with Len, Rin/Len shippers perceive her as a ClingyJealousGirl. On Website/YouTube, she is often bashed by Meiko/Kaito and Luka/Gakupo fans who dislike the Miku/Kaito or Miku/Gakupo pairings. It all probably ties into ItsPopularNowItSucks (see below). |
| 49 | ** Meiko seems to get a ''lot'' more hate towards her for being "in the way" of Kaito/Miku, than Miku gets for being "in the way" of... pretty much every ship, for some reason. |
| 50 | ** Gakupo gets this from Miku/Luka [[YuriFan fans]], Len/Kaito [[YaoiFangirl fans]], Rin/Len fans (apparently, ''everyone'' gets some of this from Rin/Len fans) to the point it gets a little annoying. |
| 51 | * DiscreditedMeme: |
| 52 | ** The "Hatsune Miku created X" meme, used in relation to {{unperson}}ing problematic creators of popular media, eventually became the subject of backlash among the Vocaloid community, [[CreatorBacklash the creator of the meme]] ([[https://imgur.com/yF5AUga as seen here]]), and much of the broader internet as a result of its overuse, leading many to accuse it of discouraging people from viewing works through a more critical lens in regards to authorial intent and influence. |
| 53 | ** The "Len dies" meme has crossed into this as well in recent years, due to the number of songs where said thing happens greatly decreasing over time and no longer being as relevant to Len as a character. Many people in the fandom consider that unfair to label him as "the one who's always dying" when other Vocaloid such as Miku and Rin (especially the latter) also die a lot. |
| 54 | ** In the West, memes saying that KAITO's V3 sounds similar to Kermit the Frog depending on his tuning are either begrudgingly ignored or outright shut down due to the repetitiveness of the meme over the years and because of the [[SmallReferencePools small pool of songs]] that are used to "prove" the similarity in their sounds. |
| 55 | ** The "Memelord Fukase" meme in more recent years has also begun to phase out due to many fans growing tired of every mention of the character being turned into a joke, especially those who enjoy or prefer other interpretations of him. |
| 56 | ** Related to the Fukase entry above, the "meme gang shitposts" that consist of Fukase, V Flower, Len, and Oliver (and occasionally Miku, Moke or Piko) has also started to cross into this for the same reason. |
| 57 | * EnsembleDarkHorse: |
| 58 | ** KAITO. When he was first released, he was Crypton's poorest-selling Vocaloid despite the initial success of MEIKO due to the lack of interest in male vocals at the time, not helped by the fact that he was released in a magazine with a predominantly male readership. Shortly after Miku came along, however, interest was sparked in him and his software began to sell more, with him topping the Crypton sales charts and displacing the other software releases. He also overtook MEIKO in popularity and became ''the'' second most popular male Vocaloid after Len. With Len being discounted as a male voicebank [[CrossDressingVoices (as he often is due to his voice provider being a woman)]], he's the most popular male Vocaloid, period. [[VindicatedByHistory Talk about a comeback]]. |
| 59 | ** Original fan-made derivatives turned semi-official voicebanks Haku Yowane and Neru Akita are both very popular with fans, to the point that they are more popular and recognized than some of the ''actual Vocaloid voicebanks''. However, this has started to taper off as more official Vocaloids have been introduced. |
| 60 | ** Bizu, the cartoony, imp-like character featured in the "Snobbism" PV by Neru, is so well-loved and iconic that he gets just as much fanwork as many of the voicebanks themselves. It's not uncommon for fanart to depict Bizu alongside the Vocaloids, and even people that hate original-character-focused [=PVs=] will make an exception for "Snobbism". |
| 61 | ** While she's fairly obscure outside (and even in some pockets) of the Vocaloid community, MIRIAM is possibly the most popular English vocal from [=V1=]. When her company, Zero-G, asked fans what they'd like to see in a future library, [[https://www.vocaloidnews.net/zero-g-asks-for-library-suggestions-fans-respond-with-miriam-v4/ the most popular answer was an update for MIRIAM]]. |
| 62 | ** Flower. Originally, she was a voicebank that peaked in popularity around the time of release before falling into obscurity for quite some time. However, she has since seen a resurgence in popularity, becoming one of the most used Vocaloids among producers in the Vocaloid climate of the late 2010s onwards, even overshadowing long-time favorite Gumi. With fans her vocals have become quite popular as well, as songs featuring her tend to rack up hundreds of thousands, and sometimes ''millions'' of views. As what might qualify as a testament to her popularity[[note]]And saying "Might" as other things factored in, such as the song making rounds on Tiktok, a website known for popularizing songs due to how quickly they circulate on the app, as well as the memetic nature of the song and illustration used for the song[[/note]], the song "Goodbye Declaration" by Chinozo featuring Flower as a vocalist is currently the highest viewed Vocaloid song at over ''70 million views''. |
| 63 | ** Kaai Yuki has started to become a minor one in the scene in the 2020s thanks to producers like Inabakumori or Yukopi, despite barely getting much attention or only being delegated to [[CreepyChild horror songs]] for most of her tenure. Yukopi's song "Kyofuu All Back" in particular quickly rose up to be one of the most viewed Vocaloid songs in the past few years. |
| 64 | * EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory: |
| 65 | ** Opinions vary ''quite'' a bit on what, if anything, the song "Rolling Girl" could be about, with theories ranging from suicide to school bullying to an abusive relationship. |
| 66 | ** The writer of "Alice Human Sacrifice" states that there's no particular symbolism in the song. According to him, ''"it's a series of events with the Vocaloids, nothing else. Sorry."'' This doesn't stop fans from trying to look for hidden meanings, though. |
| 67 | ** No one can seem to figure out what "Matryoshka" is actually about, with theories including extreme stress, drugs, mental illness, and pregnancy. Another common interpretation is ironically that of criticism to those that interpret songs in "wrong" ways. |
| 68 | ** Similarly, nobody can figure out "Panda Hero". The most common theory is that it's about a bunch of opium addicts playing baseball. Yes, ''really''. |
| 69 | ** People have argued for years about whether Kikuo's "Don't Look At Me In That Way" is about an abortion or a miscarriage. WordOfGod however states that the lyrics are meant to be taken literally and it's about a kid who died in a bike accident. |
| 70 | ** The producer ATOLS' work is often subject to this due to the heavily surreal and at times unsettling imagery he uses in his songs and videos. The most egregious example is his most popular song "MACARON", which fans have speculated to be about things from sex to cannibalism. Humorously, ATOLS' own statement on the matter is that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin he simply wanted to make a song about macarons.]] |
| 71 | * FandomEnragingMisconception |
| 72 | ** Say that Vocaloid is an anime to any Voca-fan and watch the flames rise. |
| 73 | ** Saying Miku's "01" tattoo symbolizes her being the first Vocaloid. The tattoo is meant to signify her being the first entry in Cryptons Character Vocal series. |
| 74 | ** Claiming that the Crypton Vocaloid characters originated from ''VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva'' and ''especially'' ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai'' is a very quick way to rile up fans. |
| 75 | ** Confusing Vocaloid voicebanks with their competing software counterparts ([=CeVIO=], [=SynthV=], UTAU) is a sure way to get swiftly corrected. |
| 76 | ** Crediting a song to the voicebank who sang it instead of the producer who actually made it (like for example, crediting "World is Mine" to Hatsune Miku instead of Ryo and Supercell) is an easy way to get swiftly corrected by irate fans and to become regarded as a "noob" amongst the fandom. This is because the fandom seen this as an {{Old Shame}} since had this problem back from its earlier days so bad that it pissed off several producers (most notably wowaka) and drove them to quit the Vocaloid scene. |
| 77 | ** Saying that Len and Rin are siblings is okay as {{fanon}}, but don't try and suggest that they are ''officially'' siblings unless you want to kick a bee hive and likely invoke the wrath of the Rin/Len shippers, who will point out that their relationship with each other is deliberately [[AmbiguouslyRelated meant to be vague and that they are not officially siblings]]. |
| 78 | ** Saying that Flower, Gumi, Gakupo, IA or any of the Crypton characters (with the exception of Miku, Rin and Len) are underrated, more specifically with Flower and Gumi, as they are usually considered the most popular voice banks. |
| 79 | ** Mistaking Miku as the first Japanese Vocaloid could earn the ire of MEIKO fans, as she was released a solid two-and-a-half years before Miku was (MEIKO was released in November 2004, while Miku was released in August 2007). |
| 80 | ** Vocaloid is ''not'' AI-generated. It is a vocal synthesizer that is more comparable to digital instruments than anything AI-related and it still requires human involvement for them to work (it's effectively like calling a digital piano AI). Even the VOCALOID:AI voice banks -- which do incorporate some AI (mainly for tuning) -- still require the human user to insert the music and input the lyrics for them to sing. Trust us, you ''don't'' want to make this mistake and call Miku or any of the Virtual Singers an "AI singer" or compare them to AI singers unless you want to be crucified by the fandom. |
| 81 | * FandomRivalry: |
| 82 | ** Hatsune Miku vs ''Anime/SuperSonico'', due to their similarities. Also due to the rise of Miku's ItsPopularNowItSucks issue, former fans began disliking her and began supporting Sonico instead. However, this has since died down due to both characters having collaborations in RealLife. |
| 83 | ** There have been some issues of infighting as well as competitiveness between fans of Music/SynthV, [=CeVIO=] AI and VOCALOID fans due to [=CeVIO=]'s KAFU voicebank rising to prominence and the increasing rise of attention on AI voicebanks. A lot of fans ignore the drama and happily welcome more diversity of characters and voices in the vocal synth scene, but many others have been known to become indignant that VOCALOID - and Miku by extension - could become dethroned as the most popular synths. What makes it worse is the increasing favor shown by fans towards [=SynthV=] due to its ''much'' more realistic vocals and ease of use compared to [=VOCALOID5=] and 6/AI, which have been poorly received for their shaky quality and lack of (if not removal) of significant quality-of-life features for music-making and tuning. The fact that several companies have been moving their characters (such as Yuzuki Yukari and IA) to [=SynthV=] and [=CeVIO=] and forgoing renewing them for VOCALOID updates has only increased the bad blood between the programs' fanbases. |
| 84 | ** There is a bit of heat between some Vocaloid fans and ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai'' players due to the treatment of the Virtual Singers compared to the OriginalGeneration, leading to accusations that it's not a real ''Vocaloid'' game and that the Crypton Vocaloids/Vocaloid songs are simply there for the sake of marketability. ''Vocaloid'' fans have opted to keep ''Project SEKAI'' related things separate from ''Vocaloid'' projects[[note]]Such as not wanting ''Project Sekai'' associated with ''Magical Mirai'' or ''Miku Symphony''[[/note]] due to viewing them as entirely different things. Some fans of other Vocaloids also take umbrage with the fact that ''[=ProSeka=]'' features songs originally sung by non-Crypton vocal synthesizers, but often get covered by the Virtual Singers and the original characters while the original synthesizers have their original song as a mere alternate track[[note]]however, it should be noted that this is only if you set the original characters' vocals as the default, and some of the Vocaloid characters' vocals have been restricted as a result of copyright (for example, Yuzuki Yukari's original version of "Chururira Chururira Daddadda!" is not available in-game due to this reason).[[/note]]. Except GUMI for a number of songs... for some reason. |
| 85 | ** Crypton Vocaloids VS Vocaloids from other companies. Crypton Vocaloids were some of the earliest made on top of being the creators of [[SpotlightStealingSquad Miku]] herself, which often causes them to be some of the most well known among casual fans, to the point that some believe [[PopCulturalOsmosis Vocaloid is just the ones produced by Crypton]]. Fans of Crypton Vocaloids also tend to be some of the most vocal when it comes criticizing new Vocaloids from other companies, either for being too similar sounding to Crypton Vocaloids or ''not sounding similar enough''. This has caused fans of Vocaloids from other companies to view them as a SpotlightStealingSquad undeserving of their fame; to the point some even question [[OnceOriginalNowOverdone how they got so popular in the first place]]. |
| 86 | * FanNickname: |
| 87 | ** In the early days of Gumi's relevance, she was often nicknamed "Rankaloid" due to the fact that her provider Creator/MegumiNakajima is more well-known for the ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' character Ranka Lee. |
| 88 | ** Quite a few fans have used the nickname "[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Lenny]]" for Len, due to the number of [=PVs=] in which he dies. In the Japanese fandom, he tends to be called Ikelen (Cool Len) whenever he's portrayed as cool or badass, which is based off the Japanese term "ikemen" (roughly, cool guy) and variations of it seem to be common within Vocaloid songs featuring a character being badass; Ikerin shows up less frequently. Additionally, whenever his TheCasanova side comes to the fore, he's tagged as Maselen (Mature Len). |
| 89 | ** Among [[UsefulNotes/{{Brazil}} Brazilian]] fans, Maika is also called Maikão ("Big Maika.") |
| 90 | ** [=YOHIOloid=]'s are Hio or Yohi. Even though he technically has no official name, [=VocaTone=] members have gotten around to calling him Hio in some of their official talks. |
| 91 | ** Some people call Cyber Diva Cyva (a shortening of her official name) or Athena (her most popular demo song). |
| 92 | ** Cyber Songman gets Cyman (pronounced like "Simon") for similar reasons to Cyber Diva. |
| 93 | ** Ass[=/=]Arseloid or Buttloid for Arsloid, thanks to his odd product name. |
| 94 | ** "[[{{Vaporware}} CV04]]" for Oliver, since fanartists regularly draw him with Len and Rin (who are part of the Character Vocal series), and the fact that his voice matches the "male child" description for the initial project. |
| 95 | ** flower's fans (especially in Japanese circles) gave her the nickname Hana-chan, using a translation of her character name as a hypothetical "true name" while treating "flower" as a stage name. |
| 96 | ** Lesser known Vocaloid voicebanks or Vocaloid voicebanks with lesser known providers sometimes get the derisive nickname of "Wholoids" or "Literally Wholoids". |
| 97 | ** Crypton's Vocaloid voicebanks are given the term "Cryptonloids" by fans. This only increased when Crypton announced their departure from Vocaloid to form their own software, with some using it as a term to distinguish Crypton's characters from the rest of the voicebanks. |
| 98 | ** "Bakaito" (Stupid Kaito) as detailed above. |
| 99 | ** The Chinese Vocaloids are sometimes referred to as "Chinaloids" as a catch-all term, similar to English Vocaloids being referred to as "Engloids". |
| 100 | * {{Fanon}}: Vocaloid voicebanks might just be the greatest example ever of this trope. Absolutely nothing save for the designs and the voices were determined by WordOfGod. Crypton ''even'' backpedaled on their statement that the [[MeaningfulName Kagamines were mirror images]]. |
| 101 | ** If there is a series of popular songs, the [[WordofGod song creator's word]] will often be ignored by the fans. The "Dark Woods Circus" series has it particularly bad. Everyone believes "Wide Knowledge of the Late Madness" is its prequel; despite what the fanmade PV implies, Machigerita-P has said it isn't. Even if the fans are aware that "Wide Knowledge" isn't part of the series, most will mess up the order of the songs. |
| 102 | ** Due to the English Vocaloid voicebanks released before Sonika not having a full body avatar, the fandom takes it upon themselves to sketch up various designs for the Engloids. A similar situation is displayed when fans design an image for [=VY1=] and [=VY2=], as they are the first Japanese Vocaloid voicebanks to not have a full body avatar on their boxart, similar to Leon and Lola. Fans of the pair often also associate them with the characters in their design contests, Kobushi Kiku and 66 (pronounced "Roro"), though 66 is used more often than Kobushi in art. |
| 103 | ** AH Software might be trying to move away from this with Kiyoteru Hiyama by releasing his official artbook. However, this doesn't stop fans from screwing around with his personality (like in "Delete"). |
| 104 | ** The Chinese Vocaloid project also moved away from this as well by throwing in lots of official info, along with [=OVA=] style animations such as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qul64eFzzw these]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkeYAHCelk here]]. That being said, the unreleased vocals in the line do have fanon tossed around until their time comes. |
| 105 | ** It's not uncommon for some fan artists (as well as some sneaky commissioned official artists) to portray MEIKO (and sometimes KAITO) as having the number "00" tattooed on them in the same way the Character Vocal Cryptonloids Miku, Rin, Len and Luka have "01", "02, and "03" incorporated into their respective designs. This serves as a way to signify that they're the originals and are used to make up for them being the only Cryptonloids without an assigned number officially due to the pair predating the Character Vocal series. |
| 106 | ** In circles where MEIKO/KAITO is shipped, they're usually treated as the surrogate "parents" of the Crypton Vocaloid group due to being perceived as the oldest of the six. What kind of parents they are varies from person to person, as sometimes KAITO will be a BumblingDad and MEIKO a HardDrinkingPartyGirl. |
| 107 | ** A number of KAITO fans interpret V1 KAITO and V3 KAITO as having different personalities, with V1 KAITO being portrayed as a GenkiGuy and a goofball while V3 KAITO is calmer and more mature. |
| 108 | ** Although KAITO and MEIKO lack surnames officially, fanworks tend to give the former "Shion" as his surname, while the latter is often given the surname of her younger fanmade self (Sakine). |
| 109 | * FanonDiscontinuity: An alarmingly large amount of the fandom likes to pretend that any Vocaloid released after Gumi doesn't exist. Though this seems to be mellowing out a bit, especially after [=SeeU=] and [=IA=] were released. |
| 110 | * FansPreferTheNewHer: |
| 111 | ** While some Vocaloid voicebanks get redesigns for updated installments, they're rarely accepted over their original design. For example, Hatsune Miku's [=V2=] design is treated as the definitive design for the character despite the various design updates she received after it, with this being extended to even how Crypton promotes her themselves. However, flower got hit hard with this trope when her [=V4=] design came out; many artists vastly preferred her short do and boyish looks compared to her goth-rock ensemble for [=V3=], to the point where it's rare to see fans acknowledging her original design. Flower got hit with this again when her Talkloid design came out, giving her a mix of a feminine but also tomboyish appearance. That said, while the design is once again more popular than her [=V3=] design, it still has yet to overtake flower's widely accepted [=V4=] design. |
| 112 | ** Despite the initial complaints about the changes to his design from [=V1=] to [=V3=], such as his scarf appearing to be made of plastic after the design update, KAITO's [=V3=] design update has become more well-known than his original box art design, with the original design mainly only being held onto by his older generation fans. It hasn't helped that Crypton treats the [=V3=] design as the definitive design of KAITO, with his original [=V1=] design being gradually phased out over the years. |
| 113 | * FetishRetardant: |
| 114 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6M2ppKwuZY "Nehanshika"]] features cleavage bearing Miku and [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] Gakupo. Not nearly as hot as it sounds. |
| 115 | ** "Romeo & Cinderella" by doriko has an eyecatch of Miku wearing nightwear in bed, laying stomach down with her head on a pillow and an apple in her hand, with the arm of an offscreen person pressing down next to her. It's clearly meant to be sensual imagery, with the implication being that her partner is about to have sex with or cuddle her, but there isn't a body associated with that arm visible, the arm extends all the way from the top of the illustration, and there's a fair amount of empty space between Miku's body and the top. Whoever that is, the way the arm is positioned and the lack of a second arm visible implies that whichever offscreen person that arm belongs to is doing a ''handstand'' rather than mounting her. |
| 116 | * FirstInstallmentWins: When it comes to Samfree's "Night" series, while all of the tracks in the series have achieved varying levels of success, none of them have been able to come close to the huge popularity and widespread usage of the first track in the series, "Luka Luka ☆ Night Fever". So much so that many are not aware that Samfree made succeeding songs to it at all. |
| 117 | * FriendlyFandoms: |
| 118 | ** With ''[[VideoGame/TheiDolmaster The iDOLM@STER]]''. The "P name" honorific originated in the [=iM@S=] games, the largest Vocaloid convention in Japan is called The Voc@loid M@ster, [[VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva Project Diva]] had iDOLM@STER costumes and songs as DLC, and Miku appeared as a guest idol in ''[[VideoGame/TheiDolmaster2 The iDOLM@STER 2]]''. It helps that the Kagamines and the Futami twins [[Creator/AsamiShimoda share the same seiyuu]]. |
| 119 | ** Despite being competing software, Vocaloid fans are fairly lax about the existence of Cevio AI, NEUTRINO, [=SynthV=], and other singing synthesizer software, so much so that you can find many songs that use them in "Vocalopost" tags on social media or video sites without issue. It likely helps that many Vocaloid producers have begun to use other programs along with Vocaloid starting from the late 2010s, with online festivals like The VOCALOID Collection outright making them a regular thing. |
| 120 | ** Vocaloid's longest lasting fandom alliance would be with the UTAU userbase, since UTAU started as a free alternative to Vocaloid and Kasane Teto in particular often got used in Vocaloid compositions. |
| 121 | * GeniusBonus: Some songs can have intelligent references, like "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9aC1W4q2Go Matematigirl]]", when Gumi sings "''Love is the last theorem of humanity''", the blackboard shows "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_versus_NP_problem N=NP=Love]]". |
| 122 | * GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: |
| 123 | ** [=SeeU=] in Japan. Despite being designed by a Korean manhwa artist, the Japanese Vocaloid fanbase, even those in 2ch who are infamous for their xenophobia towards Koreans, actually praised the character design heavily. |
| 124 | ** If Website/YouTube is of any indication, people from Spanish-speaking countries (like Mexico and South America) ''really'' love Vocaloids. There are quite a lot of Spanish fandubs and fansubs for Vocaloid songs on [=YouTube=], possibly even more so than English ones. |
| 125 | ** Despite being relatively successful upon her initial release, post the release and domination of Hatsune Miku and the other Vocaloids in the Character Vocal series, MEIKO has become the least popular of the Cryptonloids in the vocal synthesizer community, even being overtaken by KAITO, who despite initially selling poorly compared to her eventually overtook her upon his revival in 2008. That said, she has grown a small but vocal community of fans in the west who combat her status as the least popular Crypton. |
| 126 | ** Yohioloid was widely disliked in the western fandom and was considered a failure by Power-FX due to its low sales, but he has a small but dedicated fanbase in Japan. His Japanese voicebank certainly helped. Big-Al also got more use for originals in Japan than in the western fandom, even making it onto the Vocarank on several occasions. Oliver is extremely popular in the Japanese Vocaloid fandom and has made it onto the Vocarank several times, but he is just as loved in the western fanbase. |
| 127 | ** "Echo" is extremely popular in Japan, even appearing in karaoke machines and rhythm games, and having a light novel adaptation, even though it's made by a western producer and entirely in English. |
| 128 | ** Fukase has become a borderline EnsembleDarkhorse for the Western fandom due to his quirky design, [[MemeticMutation memetic potential]] and above-average English capabilities (especially for a bilingual Vocaloid voiced by a Japanese singer), despite being largely skimmed over in Japan [[note]]though, this is partially due to his rather restrictive character license preventing many Japanese producers from using him extensively, such as for albums[[/note]]. |
| 129 | ** Luo Tianyl, a Chinese Vocaloid, was well-received by the Japanese fanbase despite not becoming nearly as popular there as she is in her home country. |
| 130 | * HardToAdaptWork: Despite its popularity, Vocaloid has never received a true anime adaptation based off of them[[note]]Certain songs have received anime adaptations, such as ''Anime/BlackRockShooter'' and ''Anime/MekakucityActors'' (based off of "Music/KagerouProject") and Vocaloids (particularly Hatsune Miku) have made cameo appearances in a ton of anime, but a full fledged anime based on the Vocaloids themselves has yet to be produced[[/note]], with fans chalking it up to them being "unadaptable". Basically, the intention of Vocaloid is that they are {{blank slate}}s, with no distinct personalities and traits or canon to go off of. While this approach works well in the sense that they can be used for anything, ironically, this makes it difficult to translate them into an anime, as doing so will mean having to craft "official" personalities for them from scratch, which could taint and hurt their status as interpretive characters, which is a big part of what made them appealing to fans and content creators in the first place. |
| 131 | * HarsherInHindsight: Luo Tianyi, Yan He or [=SeeU=] doing a cover of "Senbonzakura" if you see it in [[UsefulNotes/FirstSinoJapaneseWar a]] [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Chinese]] and [[UsefulNotes/KoreansInJapan Korean]] perspective. The song was actually removed from the Korean release of ''[[VideoGame/HatsuneMikuProjectDiva Project Mirai DX]]'' specifically to avoid this. |
| 132 | * HilariousInHindsight: |
| 133 | ** It's not exactly uncommon for various bits of technology seen in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' to eventually see real-life equivalents produced, but the episode "Virtuoso" from ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' actually saw an alien race create a singing computer program that can go beyond the typical human vocal range, many years before Vocaloid existed. Oh, and it's represented by a humanoid hologram. Even Vocaloid was predicted by ''Trek''. Made funnier by the fact Miku's default colors are those worn by the EMH, a medical hologram that took up singing as an off-time hobby. |
| 134 | ** Before Vocaloid was released, someone used an existing speech-to-text program and gave us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7dLUpyh3AQ MC Hawking]], a rap parody of Stephen Hawking. Even that became hilarious down the line given Plogue created [[https://www.plogue.com/products/chipspeech/ Chipspeech]], a vocal synthesizing software using the voices of soundchips from old hardware. |
| 135 | ** [=LUMi=], with her white clothing and jellyfish motif, bears an uncanny resemblance to [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon Nihilego.]] |
| 136 | ** The first English Vocaloids had alliterative ThemeNaming (Leon and Lola) while the first Japanese characters were given common Japanese names (Kaito[[note]]originally "TARO"[[/note]] and Meiko[[note]]originally "HANAKO"[[/note]]). By V5, the first English Vocaloids for the system have common English names (Amy and Chris) while the Japanese ones are alliterative (Kaori and Ken). |
| 137 | ** Leon and Lola's depictions in fandom varied wildly, but their voice providers were noted to be black. Amy and Chris, on the other hand, would later match their V1 predecessors in color scheme and duality-- and their avatars ended up matching Leon and Lola's voice providers to boot. |
| 138 | ** Around the time both characters were released, a lot of comparisons were drawn between SF-A2 Miki and Utatane Piko's designs, though their differing parent companies made most dismiss it as a coincidence. Fast forward ten years later when AH-Software reveals that the characters ''were'' originally created by the same developer, with Piko having been sold to ki/oon and Miki to AHS. |
| 139 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5BhK8JUCi8 "Magical☆Kitty Len Len!"]] pre-dates [[WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug Chat Noir]] by about six years. Even better, the song calls him a miracle! |
| 140 | * HoYay: |
| 141 | ** Meiko's flashbacks in "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTdce6ix_go Paradise of Light and Shadow]]", which may or may not be sisterly love. |
| 142 | ** Although most Vocaloid songs are straight [[YuriGenre Yuri]] or [[YaoiGenre Yaoi]] when this is concerned, "World's End Dance Hall" is rife with ambiguity. Depending on the PV version you will see, what Miku and Luka have been going on is either PseudoRomanticFriendship, RescueRomance, a SuicidePact, or even UnresolvedSexualTension... the only thing missing so far is a PV that actually has an explicit romantic relationship. |
| 143 | ** [[ThoseTwoGuys Haku and Neru's]] appearances tend to run on LesYay. "Dark Woods Circus" for example, has them slow dancing together [[MasculineFeminineGayCouple with Haku in a suit and top hat and Neru in a long dress]]. |
| 144 | ** Also, Miku and Haku. It was inevitable, really. |
| 145 | ** ''Project Diva''[='=]s opening songs are fond of playing this up between Rin and Miku, often bordering on a PseudoRomanticFriendship. In one, they look as though they're about to kiss when it's suddenly revealed that they were just acting and Luka was the one making them do it, while in another one, they're in a SleepCute position on a train before Len wakes them up. |
| 146 | ** "Gimme x Gimme" has Miku and Rin going to a club, getting drunk and messing around. It's implied at the end of the song that Miku is cheating on her unseen boyfriend or husband. |
| 147 | ** "[[Music/ConfessionExecutiveCommittee A Teacher, Detained]]". The relationship between [[SternTeacher the teacher]] and [[{{Tsundere}} his (male) student]] is stated to be [[IntergenerationalFriendship platonic]], but the way they interact makes the whole song read as a [[ReincarnationRomance reincarnation love story]]. |
| 148 | ** The PV for Halyosy's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXLnKaiDeVw "Flyway"]] shows Len and Kaito gently holding each other while [[HeldGaze gazing lovingly into each other's eyes]]. Halyosy leaves it somewhat unclear if the meaning of the song is meant to be taken as romantic or platonic (the song itself is about coping with someone you care about leaving for an extended period), but the visuals are intimate enough that it's easy to draw certain conclusions... The lyrics make it even ''more'' interesting, if you know what they mean in English: |
| 149 | --->'''Both:''' Until we can resonate with each other again\ |
| 150 | '''Len:''' Let me sing the following words of my love |
| 151 | * IAmNotShazam: "Vocaloid" is not Hatsune Miku's name, nor does it refer only to her - a mistake caused by her SeriesMascot status that can be a BerserkButton for many fans. |
| 152 | * HypeBacklash: Fans of non-Miku Vocaloids tend to be a bit leery of Miku for being the SeriesMascot face of the Vocaloid brand and being [[WolverinePublicity promoted to hell and back]] at the expense of attention towards other Vocaloids, especially ones not by Crypton. The fact that a good chunk of Vocaloid contests and events partner mainly with Piapro (which, incidentally, uses the Cryptons) doesn't help. |
| 153 | ** Some of the most famous Vocaloid songs, such as "Senbonzakura", "World is Mine" or "Melt" tend to be less hyped up by the newer generation of Vocaloid fans, with some even asking why they're so popular. |
| 154 | * IdiosyncraticShipNaming: |
| 155 | ** "Banana Split" for Kaito/Len, and Len/Neru can be referred to as "Banana Phone". |
| 156 | ** Len/Teto gets "Banana Bread". |
| 157 | ** Miku/Luka's common shipname is "Negitoro", referring to a Japanese food made with their respective food items of "negi" (leek) and "toro" (fatty tuna). |
| 158 | ** Japanese fans often refer to Len/Luka as "Banagro" (written "Banaguro"), banana + maguro (tuna). |
| 159 | ** Rin and Miku is sometimes referred to as "Negirora" (Leek Roller) in Japanese circles, referencing their character items (leeks and road rollers). |
| 160 | ** Kaito and Gakupo are typically referred to as "Nice" (or "Naisu"), a pun on "nasu" (eggplant, Gakupo's character item) and "aisu" (ice cream, Kaito's character item). To expand on the name, the Gakupo/Kaito/Len trio is typically referred to as "Van'N'Ice" thanks to the producer NatsuP. |
| 161 | * ItsPopularNowItSucks: Many Vocaloid-related things seem to unfortunately fall into the eligibility of this trope, from songs to voicebanks. |
| 162 | ** ''Especially'' Hatsune Miku. Some Vocaloid fans dislike her simply because she's the most popular of them all likely attributed to her WolverinePublicity. |
| 163 | * LauncherOfAThousandShips: Everyone can be shipped with ''everyone'', no exceptions. This is also mostly due to the canon that each produced song establishes. |
| 164 | * LGBTFanbase: Vocaloid as a whole has become wholly embraced by the LGBT community. This is due to Vocaloid giving many of them a voice through the characters and allowing them to share their feelings with the world in a way they might not be able to otherwise. It helps that the BlankSlate nature of Vocaloid allows LGBT fans to interpret them with any sexuality or gender that they want without having to worry about CanonDefilement or the like. |
| 165 | ** MEIKA Hime and Mikoto were immediately applauded by the LGBT audience for being confirmed as nonbinary by Gynoid Co. That said, flower was already beloved for the same audience for her possessing both a feminine and masculine design. |
| 166 | ** Len has grown a small yet dedicated transgender fanbase, with many depicting him and Rin as identical twins and Len transitioning to male. |
| 167 | * MemeticMutation: Has its own page [[Memes/{{Vocaloid}} here]]. |
| 168 | * MemeticTroll: Inverted with Akita Neru. She's a Miku derivative who acts as a personification of trolling following an incident of Google censoring every Miku picture in the net (long story); her name means "I'm tired; off to bed" coming from people who tried to stop the talk about the issue. The inversion comes when her origins become glossed over over time and she's mostly depicted as a DeadpanSnarker (and sometimes {{Tsundere}}) in {{Fanon}}. |
| 169 | * MisaimedFandom: |
| 170 | ** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osLl7gkfUHU Nashimoto-We, Kill Me]]" makes fun of Nashimoto-P's misguided fans. Ironically, it has its own misaimed fandom that takes the song at face value instead of the satire it is. |
| 171 | ** In the western community, Flower is often headcanoned by fans to be a transman or nonbinary because of her tomboyish voice and [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/v4flower.png masculine appearance in her Vocaloid 4 software package]]. This often ignores the fact that WordOfGod went on to clarify that she ''is'' female, as well as the fact that her TALK box art would go on to [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/flower_talk_alt.png depict her with a feminine appearance again]]. |
| 172 | ** [=VY1=] and [=VY2=] weren't given appearances to the voices ''specifically'' so people would focus on the music itself and let those editing them alter the voices however they like. This did not stop people from making appearances for them to fit with the other Vocaloids. The same is also true of Leon and Lola; the ''[[OlderThanTheyThink very first]]'' Vocaloids. |
| 173 | * {{Moe}}: Any Vocaloid, even the English ones, can be seen as this with a little bit of tweaking. |
| 174 | ** Japanese anime-avatar Vocaloids were practically meant to appeal in a moe way, but [[TokenMiniMoe Len]] in particular stands out. |
| 175 | ** Aoki Lapis is generally seen as this, for her almost retro-looking and pure anime design. |
| 176 | ** [=SeeU=], too. |
| 177 | ** Luo Tianyi as seen in this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qul64eFzzw video]]. Also possibly Yuezheng Ling during the middle sections of this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbkeYAHCelk video]]. |
| 178 | ** Some of Avanna's concept artworks by the actual commissioned artist herself [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdfn4i2EPj1r9s3hco2_1280.png come]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdfn4i2EPj1r9s3hco3_1280.png quite]] [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdfn4i2EPj1r9s3hco4_1280.png close]]. |
| 179 | ** Haku Yowane. Fans lately have turned her [[TheWoobie pity and sadness]] into a moe point, but in a way where both she and the person cheering her up show a sympathetic, loving side. She's also been depicted as being [[ShrinkingViolet shy and sensitive]]. |
| 180 | ** Neru Akita, being the little tsundere she is, often depicted having a crush on Len, being friends with Yowane Haku (see example above, also), and although she is shown to sometimes be hated and a "troll", she secretly wishes that people would get along with her. |
| 181 | ** Tone Rion and Yumemi Nemu had their designs made with trope in mind. Especially considering their distributor, [[MeaningfulName MoeJapan]]. |
| 182 | ** The chibi version of Megurine Luka wearing a cat-shaped cap from the song "Toeto" is the epitome of this, considering the song's lyrics being about a ShrinkingViolet. |
| 183 | * MoralEventHorizon: |
| 184 | ** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVFfeTIWWco Fear Garden]]'': If Rin ''hadn't'' crossed crossed it after killing the other vocaloids to use their hands in her "garden", she definitely ''sails over the edge of it'' after ''murdering her own brother'' all the while showing absolutely no remorse for her actions whatsoever, she even ''repeatedly stabs her brother after he's been killed'' for good measure. |
| 185 | * {{Narm}}: Given the dramatic or sentimental nature of many songs, a few are bound to fall into this. An example is "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbOvl4sgFSU Taking Shelter from the Rain]]", where Gumi's love interest [[spoiler: [[DiabolusExMachina gets killed by falling rocks]]]] right when she's about to confess to him. |
| 186 | * NauseaFuel: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6elFMyYYiWA I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry]]". The song, about a girl apologizing to her father, who is either sexually abusive or a cannibal, has lyrics that are extremely graphic. |
| 187 | * NeverLiveItDown: |
| 188 | ** KAITO has suffered from this amongst the older generation of Vocaloid fans, but especially those that are aware of his past reputation, the fact that he was deemed a commercial failure after his initial release is something that is often brought up when comparing the current popularity of the voicebanks, even though this stopped being the case after his revival in 2008 following success sparking interest in him. The reason for his lack of popularity at the time is often left out, as is the fact that KAITO was fairly successful after his revival, with his software topping sales charts and displacing the other Cryptons' packages, including Miku's, for quite some time. |
| 189 | *** To the disgruntlement of KAITO fans, some can't seem to leave behind the old Nico Nico Douga meme age of KAITO where he was often portrayed as a deranged gag character that ran around [[NakedPeopleAreFunny wearing nothing but a scarf]]. Some even believe that this is the ''proper'' way to portray KAITO and look down on the works that makes him a [[CoolBigBro cool, reliable older brother figure]] instead, despite this being how pretty much all of Crypton's official media portrays him, up and into ''VideoGame/ProjectSEKAI''. |
| 190 | ** Kagamine Len can't seem to leave behind his reputation of either [[TheyKilledKennyAgain dying]] in songs or being depicted as a womanizer due to how supposedly common it was for him to meet either fate in some of his early hits such as "SPICE" or "Seasonal Feathers". The meme has persisted for nearly his entire lifespan as a Vocaloid, to the point where it isn't uncommon to see people leave comments on his less tragic songs praising it for avoiding the cliche, despite the fact that songs featuring Len dying or womanizing have dwindled over the years. |
| 191 | * NightmareFuel: See [[NightmareFuel/{{Vocaloid}} here]]. |
| 192 | * NightmareRetardant: |
| 193 | ** Despite pretty much everything in "Dark Woods Circus" being nightmare-inducing, the Chairman isn't particularly horrifying. At first, he's seen only as two glowing eyes that are ''higher than the treetops'', but then there is a flash of light, revealing him to be a giant cat wearing a bowtie. |
| 194 | * NoYay: |
| 195 | ** While Rin/Len was once a popular ship pretty much everywhere, this was flipped on its head in the western fanbase in recent years due to the rise in young moral crusaders in fandoms and the spread of the now common misconception that Rin and Len are canonically considered siblings. Admitting that you ship the pair or simply do not care that others do will get you questionable looks in the best-case scenario and even outright attacked if you stumble across the wrong crowd. As well, like most things when it comes to Vocaloid "canon", the fact that [[WordOfGod Crypton]] has acknowledged the ship and even passively supports it in their official media tends to be ignored by those that are vehemently against both the ship and anyone that likes it. |
| 196 | ** While less vocal, some western fans dislike the idea of KAITO/Len due to the also common misconception that KAITO is an adult when in reality he has no official age despite being perceived as one. The same applies to KAITO/Miku to a lesser degree and even to KAITO/Rin. |
| 197 | ** Miku/Luka is rejected by many Western fans due to Miku and Luka officially being 16 and 20, respectively, making Miku a teenager and Luka a legal adult. While their ages are [[DependingOnTheWriter not fixed and (like with most things Vocaloid) is prone to change depending on the work]] (for example, ''Project Sekai'' ages Luka down to a teenager around Miku's age in the School Sekai), the fact that their ages are "official" is enough to make many fans too uncomfortable to entertain the ship, regardless of how solid they are. |
| 198 | * ObscurePopularity: Luo Tianyl. She has a large fanbase in China and several songs with millions of views (even a few with over 10 million), however, these are largely unknown to the Vocaloid fanbase outside of China, especially when it comes to her songs that are exclusively uploaded to Bilibili. |
| 199 | ** In fact, this applies to any popular non-Crypton Future Media voice bank, as popularity as a voice bank does not necessarily translate to popularity as a mascot. A pretty prominent example is v flower, as despite her popularity, she ''rarely'' has her appearance featured in music videos or on album covers in comparison to the much more marketable Miku. Thus, some Vocaloid fans don't even recognize her despite being a fan of some of her biggest hits. |
| 200 | * OlderThanTheyThink: While Vocaloid popularized the use of synthesized voice to make music, it was far from the first to do so. The earliest recorded example dates back to 1961 with the recording of [[https://youtu.be/41U78QP8nBk "Daisy Bell"]] using the IBM 7094 computer. |
| 201 | * OnceOriginalNowOverdone: The [=VOCALOID2=] era is widely considered to be the program's golden age, as a lot of popular and iconic songs were released during its lifespan. But going back to the songs from that era can be rather rough for those in the late 2010s and 2020s, as the voices themselves, without significant editing, can sound extremely flat and robotic compared to later versions of the program. The raise of AI replication software that can generate near pitch perfect human sounding, ''emotional'' voices can also make it hard to see the appeal of the era. One needs to keep in mind however that back then, such tech was ''genuinely'' cutting edge, as most vocal, text to speech programs were extremely robotic, speak and spell sounding voices. The fact that Vocaloids could even sing ''at all'' back then was very impressive, let alone sounding remotely human in the process. |
| 202 | * OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Pretty much the basis for war between those who prefer KEI Garou, the original character designer for the Character Vocal Series Virtual Singers [[note]]Hatsune Miku, Kagamine Rin & Len, and Megurine Luka[[/note]], and [=iXima=], the most recent character designer for the Crypton Vocaloids including KAITO and MEIKO, who were not originally drawn by KEI. [=iXima=]'s redesigns are often criticized for missing the mark on what made KEI's original character designs stand the test of time, with many claiming that KEI should have been kept as Miku and company's character designer for this reason. |
| 203 | * OT3: With a third male Japanese Vocaloid, an obvious conclusion: Gakupo Kamui was tacked on to Kaito/Kagamine Len. |
| 204 | ** With Hiyama Kiyoteru (AKA [[FanNickname Senseiloid]]) and Big Al, there will finally be an [=OT3=] without shota for some shippers... |
| 205 | ** There is now an [=OT3=] composed of adults for the Japanese (Gakupo, Kaito, Kiyoteru) and the Western (Big Al, Tonio, Leon) Vocaloids. |
| 206 | ** Len, Oliver and Piko as the Shota [=OT3=]. Though sometimes Fukase, Ryuto, or [[OneOfTheBoys V4 Flower]] is thrown into the mix. |
| 207 | ** Piko, Fukase, and Flower have their own [=OT3=] away from the "shota squad". |
| 208 | ** [=SeeU=], Uni, and [[GenderBender ZeeU]] are sometimes drawn as this. |
| 209 | ** The [=PowerFX=] 'loids (Al, Ann, and Oliver) are rarely drawn without each other, with some fans even treating them as the western answer to the Crypton "family". |
| 210 | ** The ZOLA PROJECT boys are this by default. |
| 211 | ** The [[TheNewTens New 10s]] Zero-G voice banks (Dex, Daina, and Avanna) are sometimes treated as a trio. |
| 212 | ** KAITO, MEIKO, and Luka are starting to gain traction as this as well, being the three oldest-looking Crypton characters. Similarly, it's not uncommon to see Miku paired with both Kagamines. |
| 213 | * ParanoiaFuel: The amount of songs with cheery tunes and creepy lyrics or sudden creepy turns can lead to expecting any cheery song to be more sinister than it appears. |
| 214 | ** Many {{yandere}} songs involve women stalking and/or killing men that they don't know that well, if at all. For example, Luka's [[Music/EvilliousChronicles "Tailor Shop on Enbizaka"]] is about a tailor who [[spoiler:kills three women because she thinks her "lover" is cheating on her with them, but they're actually his family and he doesn't even ''know'' the tailor]]. This can make you feel paranoid about the girls you meet... |
| 215 | * PopCultureHoliday: The Crypton Vocaloid KAITO is notable for having three different release dates in the same month; his original Yamaha software release on February 14th, his follow-up Crypton release on February 17th, and his V3 release on February 15th. Officially, Crypton celebrates his birthday on the 17th of February [[labelnote:*]]Though Crypton has acknowledged his earlier release date occasionally, such as throwing him a birthday party on Valentine's day in 2022[[/labelnote]] as does ''VideoGame/ProjectSekai'', but that hasn't stopped Vocaloid fans from celebrating his birthday from the 14th of February to the 17th, with this serving as a yearly tradition for KAITO and Vocaloid fans alike. |
| 216 | ** May 5th is considered "MEIKO Day", coined by combining "May" with "ko" (which is how the number 5 is read in Japanese). |
| 217 | ** Similar to Miku's annual Miku Day (3/9), September 3rd has been dubbed "Gumi Day" due to "9/3" being a Japanese wordplay on "Gumi" ("kyu/gu" + "mi"). |
| 218 | * RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: When Gumi's design was first released, fans everywhere bashed it all to hell. Things got somewhat better after being released, but Gumi was still easily overshadowed by the other Vocaloids. The release of "Coward Mont Blanc" boosted her popularity so much that she practically replaced Luka as Miku's rival. Nowadays, Gumi frequently appears every week on the Weekly Rankings and is often considered the last Vocaloid to be released before FanonDiscontinuity by some fans. |
| 219 | ** Xin Hua was barely used for the first few years of her release due to her strong Taiwanese accent making her Chinese ''very'' hard to understand, even to natives. However, she thankfully received a [=VOCALOID4=] update that not only improved her pronunciations in her Mandarin, but gave her a Japanese voicebank that opened her up to Japanese producers looking to use her. |
| 220 | * RonTheDeathEater: |
| 221 | ** In the olden days of Vocaloid, any of the Vocaloids paired with either of the Kagamines was met with this reception from Rin/Len shippers (usually from the particularly [[DieForOurShip vehement]] supporters). This has calmed down in recent years, however. |
| 222 | ** Meiko and Miku get this from fans of Kaito/Meiko and Kaito/Miku, respectively, and Gakupo occasionally gets this from Miku/Luka [[YuriFan fans]]. |
| 223 | ** Hell, even in non Miku/Luka fanfics, Gakupo is often typecast as the villain. Maybe because EvilSoundsDeep? |
| 224 | * SailorEarth: Back in the olden days of the Vocaloid community, along with the creation of [=UTAUloids=] there were a lot of fan derivatives created, especially ones that followed the Hatsune Miku character design pattern. It has gotten to the point where were even derivatives created to ''mock'' the creation of fan-made Vocaloids, particularly ones that were deemed low-effort or unoriginal, had begun to spring up such as [[https://fanloid.fandom.com/wiki/Kagami_Kawaiine Kagami Kawaiine]]. |
| 225 | * TheScrappy: |
| 226 | ** Every Vocaloid has had their time in the sun with this trope. Either it was because [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks they sounded like a previous Vocaloid]], or they constantly compare them to the hugely popular Crypton Vocaloids (and [[SixthRanger Gumi and Gakupo]]). Though for a while, the resident Scrappy of the Vocaloid banks was Chika, a V3 Vocaloid whom many thought was just a higher-pitched Gumi, didn't have many originals ''or'' covers, and was noted to be the least popular Vocaloid bank of 2014. However, many fans have praised her stylish, fashionable design. |
| 227 | ** Gachapoid has been at the absolute bottom of the rankings ever since his debut every year save 2014[[note]]It was Chika that year, see above[[/note]]. In America, [[AmericansHateTingle he's even less well liked.]] This is due to a number of factors, such as his nasally, almost honking voice (which is [[{{Narm}} hard to take seriously]] at best and outright SensoryAbuse at worst), his derpy facial expression, and him being primarily designed for children's songs (when the majority of VOCALOID's fans and userbase are teens and young adults). Him being based on a mascot that's rather obscure outside of Japan doesn't help matters. |
| 228 | ** Sonika is widely considered the ''worst'' VOCALOID to ever be commercially released, due to her thick accent rendering her borderline [[TheUnintelligible incomprehensible]] unless you're willing to heavily tinker with her phonemes and tuning. While she ''does'' have somewhat of an advantage when singing in other languages (due to her looser phonemes), even this isn't enough to save her, as there are many other single-language banks that do a better job of filling that niche (such as MAIKA, Flower and the VYs), leaving her without much of a role to fill. |
| 229 | * SelfFanservice: |
| 230 | ** Whatever is going on with the left side of Fukase's face (whether it be burn marks, veins, various scars or something else entirely) is downplayed or covered up in many cases in an attempt to make him look more normal. |
| 231 | ** Len Kagamine has gotten this over the years. In his official box art, there's not doubt that he looks like a boy around the age of 14 (his official age). Fan art, however, tends to age him up and draw him as a {{Bishounen}}. |
| 232 | ** Some fans tend to feminize flower's V4 design by giving her additional curves and downplaying her boyish appearance. As she has plenty of more feminine designs before and after this one, it's an odd fixation. |
| 233 | * ShipMates: As far as ships involving the Cryptonloids go, [[PairTheSpares Miku/Luka]], Kaito/Meiko, and Len/Rin are the most common shipmates. It helps that this is how Crypton pairs these characters off officially, though not in a way that implies that the characters are romantically involved with each other. |
| 234 | * ShipToShipCombat: This is present everywhere with every single ship since the early days of Vocaloid. |
| 235 | ** Being a fan-favorite couple since the early days of Vocaloid, Len/Rin shippers tend to abhor anyone that pairs the two with anyone other than each other. Likewise, many shippers who prefer to ship the Kagamines with other people (Miku and GUMI being the most popular options) also abhor the Len/Rin ship, with many accusing the ship as being incestuous in nature, despite there being no official confirmation on their relationship (given that they are {{blank slate}}s). Unsurprisingly, because of their mutual dislike for each other, this has led to plenty of vicious fights between those who ship Len/Rin and those who don't. |
| 236 | ** Funnily, there's a small skirmish between MEIKO/KAITO versus Miku/KAITO. The skirmishes aren't that fierce and are rarely present, unlike DieForOurShip-things like Rin/Len vs [[LauncherOfAThousandShips one of them/whatever]], and mostly appear as IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy. |
| 237 | ** In recent years, there's been a bit of back and forth between KAITO/Miku shippers and Miku/Luka shippers, particularly from western fans of either ship. Luka/Miku fans are often the instigators, claiming that KAITO/Miku is a problematic ship because Miku is eternally 16 while KAITO is an adult. The fact that KAITO has no official age and Luka is ''actually'' an adult, as her official profile says that she's 20 years old, tends to be forgotten or simply unacknowledged by those that make these arguments. Not that it should matter when it comes to software that can be interpreted any which way, mind you... |
| 238 | ** Due to being Miku's most popular Yuri ships with a great deal of official and unofficial content backing both pairs up, the ship wars between Miku/Rin and Miku/Luka shippers can get downright intense at times, especially in the Western community. |
| 239 | * SpiritualSuccessor: |
| 240 | ** With their Pink/Blue color schemes, ability to use "soulful" sounds, and positioning as the first English voicebanks of V5, Amy and Chris can be seen as this to the very first English voicebanks, Leon and Lola. |
| 241 | * SugarWiki/SweetDreamsFuel: Many of the songs produced by Oster Project (especially her songs featuring Miku) could very well qualify as this, with her songs often consisting of sweet, charming, jazzy and/or whimsical tunes, with the [=PV=]s often featuring adorable chibi versions of the characters. If you ever feel sad, just try and listen to the likes of "Miracle Paint", "Alice in Musicland", or "House of Music" and you're guaranteed to feel better by the end. |
| 242 | * TheyChangedItNowItSucks: |
| 243 | ** Sonika's make-over in 2009 and Miku Append in 2010. Fandom reaction was a mix of positive and negative. |
| 244 | ** Big Al and Sweet Ann's Taiwanese designs. Fans seem a bit divided on Sweet Ann's. |
| 245 | ** [[http://vocaloidotaku.net/index.php?showtopic=17499?s=74e135fc6039fa12beba2480c87be961 Ring Suzune and Lui Hibiki]]. Not very many people liked their redesigns. There is also very little ''new design'' Ring fanart to speak of, and most chose to draw her as Ringu Suzunone instead. On Japanese [[http://2chradio.com/jidou/dat/news1306669549.html message boards]], they too question why the original design could not applied to the revision. For example, a [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Vocaloid_RingasRingu_5112.jpg Japanese anon recolored Ring as Ringu]]. |
| 246 | ** Starting in TheNewTens, Vocaloid song [=PVs=] increasingly featured original characters instead of the Vocaloids themselves (though this generally increased with the rise of concept series and utaite becoming more famous for some of their covered songs Vocaloid songs than the 'loids were). Many have not taken kindly to this trend. |
| 247 | ** Many fans reacted very negatively to the design of Tone Rion V4, as the redesign hardly looks like the original V3 one beyond having GirlishPigtails. You can still see people arguing about which design should be considered the "better" Rion design and if the V4 design should be [[CanonDiscontinuity disregarded]] for V3 and vice-versa. |
| 248 | ** One of the oft-used features of [=VOCALOID4=] was its cross-synthesis (XSY for short), which allowed users to synthesize two different voicebanks as one, and, for at least one Vocaloid ([=ARSloid=]), [=XSY=] was often ''necessary'' to get a high quality sound. While most voicebanks are not impacted by the lack of [=XSY=], users were not fond of the succeeding engine, [=V5=], taking away the XSY feature, as it removed several unique voice configurations that could only be accessed through XSY abilities. |
| 249 | * TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Occasionally the newer Vocaloids get accused of being rehashes of older ones, usually one of the Crypton Vocaloids or Gumi. For example: |
| 250 | ** Hiyama Kiyoteru was accused by some of being just a rehash of Kaito because they sound so similar. |
| 251 | ** Aoki Lapis once was compared to Yuki Kaai, and at one instance, Miku Hatsune. |
| 252 | ** Mew got compared to Luka Megurine and Gumi (or a mix of the two). |
| 253 | ** Oliver got compared to Len Kagamine. |
| 254 | ** IA got compared to Gumi because of their similarity in voice. |
| 255 | ** Luo Tianyi got compared to Aoki Lapis due to similarities in their color schemes. |
| 256 | ** One extreme case of idiocy involved accusing Aoki Lapis of being a rehash of ''Kaiko'' (a well-known Kaito GenderFlip) of all things. |
| 257 | ** Even when her first Demo "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJaLGqoNjCA Justitia]]" came out, Merli already got comparisons with Meiko, Iroha, and even Prima. |
| 258 | ** Kokone got comparisons with her predecessor Gumi after her demo was released. It doesn't help that both are from the same company (Internet Co). Unfortunately, it was also repeated during Chika's release, with the added handicap of being released within the same time span. |
| 259 | ** Stardust's and Uni's early designs looked a lot like Miku and/or Miku Append. Stardust's case involved a lot of jokes about piracy in China. |
| 260 | *** It seems that Stardust can't get a break with this one: her final design led to several jokes of her looking too much like Yukari (not helped by the fact they're both characters with CosmicMotifs). |
| 261 | ** Despite Sachiko's uniqueness as a vocaloid designed for ''enka'', there were quite a few comparisons between her and Yohioloid Japanese. |
| 262 | ** Mirai Komachi was panned right out of the gate due to claims that she looked and sounded too much like Rin. |
| 263 | ** While not as bad as some examples, Otomachi Una got some flack for being another twin tail voicebank with blue hair. This eventually calmed down due to her voice and appearance being distinct from Hatsune Miku's actual design, however. |
| 264 | ** Meika Hime and Mikoto got a bit of this due to being "twins" that aren't ''actually'' twins but two characters that look similar and have an ambiguous relation to each other, clearly calling to mind the Kagamines. It didn't help that like Len and Rin, they were sold in the same packaging and when tuned a certain way, Mikoto sounds quite similar to Len (such as in Mikoto's demo "Angel"). |
| 265 | * TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: |
| 266 | ** "Synchronicity" never addresses anything about Kaito. Why does he have magic? Why is his eye always covered? How did he end up with Len? Even the ''[[AllThereInTheManual novel]]'' doesn't elaborate who the hell he is. Ruko also counts, considering that they're strong enough to fight Meiko and [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse is never seen after their introductory scene]]. |
| 267 | ** From "Synchronicity"'s artist, the "Mirror of Magic/Magic Mirror" series also has this with Gakupo, who gives Len the mirror. Why does he have it? What does he know about the magic? Why did he give it to Len? None of this is ever explained. |
| 268 | ** "Karakuri Burst" also has Kaito and Miku. Both of them are TheManBehindTheMan to Len and Rin and implied to be part of [[EyeScream whatever created them]]. Both seem to know something. Neither of them ever gets any elaboration. |
| 269 | ** Depending on who you ask, any of the cancelled or unreleased Vocaloids such as Hibiki Lui, Suzune Ring or Ausgris can count as this. |
| 270 | * ToyShip: Ryuto/Oliver and Kaai Yuki, sometimes thanks to them being the Vocaloids that look the most like children. |
| 271 | * UnexpectedCharacter: Along with [=VOCALOID6=] dropping out of nowhere without any prior notice or advertising leading up to it, no one expected GUMI of all voicebanks to be one of the first voicebanks released on the program, let alone for her to be an AI voicebank. |
| 272 | ** ZOLA PROJECT of all characters getting a [=VOCALOID6=] update was ''not'' on the table for a majority of Vocaloid fans due to the trio being very obscure outside their small, dedicated fanbase, and not getting much attention from listeners or producers alike. Many had presumed YAMAHA had forgotten about them. Still, their update was given praise from most of the community, especially for the array of new designs they received. |
| 273 | * UnintentionalUncannyValley: The Vocaloid voices can certainly dip into this if their composer doesn't play a few tricks with their voice quality first. |
| 274 | ** Hiyama Kiyoteru's scream at the end of "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN7GQgOnQg Guilty Verse]]" sounds realistic enough to be extremely creepy. |
| 275 | ** For some, any Vocaloid song can qualify because of the lack of tonal variation that doesn't come with a natural speaking/singing voice. It's very easy to tell apart a human voice and a Vocaloid voice. [=VOCALOID6=] has attempted to address this issue, as it utilizes AI technology in order to give it's voicebanks a more natural sound. |
| 276 | * UglyCute: While not exactly ugly, any more than she is, well, freaky looking, with robotic parts, jerky movements, and bug-like accessories, some find Calne Ca to be adorable. |
| 277 | ** Fukase is sometimes regarded as such for his asymmetrical design. |
| 278 | * UnnecessaryMakeover: Reactions to Luka's [=V4X=] design update have been mixed, with some fans claiming it's too fanservicey compared to her [=V2=] design and misses the mark on what originally made Luka stand out. |
| 279 | * ViewerGenderConfusion: |
| 280 | ** Gakupo is a ''guy!?'' However, many [=PVs=] draw him to look somewhat more masculine to remedy this, and his updated box art makes him more decidedly bishounen. |
| 281 | ** Flower's voice ''alone'' confused many a fan. Her V4 box art makes it worse since she deliberately is drawn with a more boyish and androgynous design to better reflect her voice. Her voice being officially described as androgynous led many to think she was actually agender or bigender, and WordOfGod has had to clarify that she is still infact intended to be female. |
| 282 | ** Piko and YANHE get quite a bit of this as well - amusing, since YANHE's voicebank was originally recorded for Moke. |
| 283 | ** Po-Uta's voice sounds very feminine and even his design is somewhat androgynous. |
| 284 | * VindicatedByHistory: KAITO was regarded as a failure back in 2006 with his voice bank only selling a measly 500 copies in his first year due to the lack of interest in male vocals at the time, and during this time he barely saw any use. However, this all changed in 2008 following Miku's release, which saw a video by Tatsunami called "A Request From Hatsune" get uploaded onto [=NicoNicoDouga=] that had Miku request people use him more and asking what happened to him and where he has gone, which then spawned a response video by Ice-P that had [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=bGLTccscwnM Kaito sing "The Ice Cream Song"]]. This series of events would end up exposing fans to Kaito and cause him to have a massive resurgence in popularity as a result, leading him to sell an extra 1.000 copies in 2008, which reportedly surprised Crypton given his initial lack of success. In the same year, he claimed the second-place "Best Seller" award from Nico Nico Douga. Nowadays, he is considered to be one of the most popular Vocaloids, with his V3 software upgrade being so successful that it outsold Hatsune Miku's software for a period. |
| 285 | * SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: While not exactly special effects, the technology used in the Vocaloid Live Concerts, more specifically "Magical Mirai" and concerts like it, qualifies. |
| 286 | * TheWoobie: Haku Yowane for most of the fandom. Neru Akita can also count sometimes. |
| 287 | ** Gumi can be seen as one, as she has had a tendency to sing songs that make her out to be this ever since her first hit "Coward Mont Blanc"; there's also a tendency to give her or invoke significant psychological problems (such as in "[[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind Mozaic Role]]", "[[SplitPersonality Ten Faced]]", and [[MindScrew possibly]] "Matryoshka"). |
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