History YMMV / SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Having similar reasons like Shu is a darkhorse for the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsGaiden Masou Kishin]]'' games, Elzam has charm and character personality with additional traits such as RealMenWearPink via SupremeChef, something that endeared fans despite his aloof aesthetics. That his {{Leitmotif}} "Trombe!" became the franchise's most notorious case of BGMOverride[=/=]MusicalisInterruptus aided his popularity, to the point where he crossed over into the ''Alpha'' saga as CharClone Ratsel, then immigrated back into ''Original Generation'' by receiving the Aussenseiter, then returned for the ''Alpha'' GrandFinale with his new unit altogether. It's telling the developers were counting on Ratsel's reception to players as the Aussenseiter means "outsider" - less literally, it also means "[[MeaningfulName darkhorse]]".

** "Free Battle Mode" in ''Original Generation Gaiden'' allows players to create their own, custom battle scenes with any unit-pilot combinations available from the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 games. It's useful for finding out hidden battle quotes with certain unit/pilot match-ups, yet it equally creates this trope. If the above Lamia/Juergen scenario didn't satisfy players, they can go beyond like pitting heroic characters against HateSink {{Complete Monster}}s (see below) or the villainous {{Eldritch Abomination}}s getting pounded by {{Mook}} units from 100% HP (yes. Those hundreds and thousands of HP of Dark Brain can be taken down in puny pellets by a LION series in one attack if you desire so).

* EvenBetterSequel: Compared to the first game, ''Original Generation 2'' has some of the best visuals on the UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance (pre-''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment''), backed by [[CharacterCustomization greater pilot/mecha]]/[[WeaponSpecialization weapon customization]], an even larger cast and a [[HiddenDepths deeper, engaging plot]] than its predecessor.

* DracoInLeatherPants: [[spoiler:Destroyed the ''entire Huckebein line'', shoots [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGenerationSteelDragonBattleGroup Ing Egret]] down twice in a surprise attack, and is very fanatical of her boss Euzeth]]. Fan reaction to all this? "It's not her fault! Banpresto had their hands forced by Bandai Namco!". Granted, these acts are far from MoralEventHorizon (compared to, say, [[spoiler:Lee killing Daitetsu]]) and ever since ''The Inspectors'', Bandai Namco has been shuffling out the Huckebeins, thus the reactions ''might'' look justified. See also EvilIsSexy.
* EvilIsSexy: Very much so, [[spoiler:but averted once she pulls her HeelFaceTurn in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsGaiden Masou Kishin F: Coffin of the End]]'' where she joins Shu and his entourage]].

* NeverLiveItDown: Amara will never escape the stigma of being considered [[spoiler:the "Huckebein destroyer"]], even if she has a lot more characterization within her, like being TheRival to Ing and [[spoiler:another one of Ingram's "Balshem" clones]], especially since [[spoiler:she makes a surprise return in ''Coffin of the End'' and ''The Moon Dwellers'', and the reveal in ''DD'' that thanks to Shizuki Shizukawa, Amara actually failed to completely destroy the Huckebein line]].

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The game clearly wanted to display Juergen as a sympathetic AntiVillain and at least a slightly morally better alternative compared to Adler Koch or Kaoru Tomine. Selcia still thought of him highly and mourned for him (and [[EveryoneHasStandards the good guys have enough standards]] to not curse him further despite just losing Lamia, out of concern of Selcia). But even then, the creation of ODE system is widely considered as Juergen throwing a massive {{Wangst}} over losing his family (he certainly handled it better than Tempest Hawker or Lee Linjun, but he could've done better), and presumably, he didn't even bother to properly test the first version of ODE installed into Mironga, which caused Selcia's brother Kyle Bean to go berserk as if riding a GEIM-installed machine and die. And even putting aside of the near death of Lamia, which makes it more personal to the Steel Dragon Battle Group, it doesn't take away that the ODE System caused untold amount of deaths, all over Juergen's tantrum of losing his family. Even in the original OVA, Kyosuke tells him (through the ODE System using his face) that [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse it's tragic that he lost his family, but that doesn't excuse the mass death and attempt to mind control everyone.]] And even if he's more moral than Adler and Kaoru, [[HateSink they're at least intentional attempts to generate audience hate.]]

* TheScrappy: A combination of being a MemeticLoser for the unintended manner (and not an endearing one at that) and having a particularly UnintentionallyUnsympathetic creator (while Juergen was heavily {{Misblamed}}, he's far from innocent), and it was only defined for committing that one PlayerPunch, made the ODE System one of the more disliked 'character' or sorts amongst the series. (while it was an artificial system, it could possess sentience as long as it has an avatar, and having its own personality, as much as it was more like an assimilating HiveMind).

* NeverLiveItDown: Amara will never escape the stigma of being considered [[spoiler:the "Huckebein destroyer"]], even if she has a lot more characterization within her, like being TheRival to Ing and [[spoiler:another one of Ingram's "Balshem" clones]], especially since [[spoiler:she makes a surprise return in ''Coffin of the End'' and ''The Moon Dwellers'']].

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: {{Zigzagged}} - [[spoiler:his RedemptionEqualsDeath act of HeroicSacrifice against Euzeth at the climax of the ''Second Original Generation'' is genuinely accepted as one of, if not, the ''only'' good thing he has done, but whether it "rescued" him when his bad traits overshadowed whatever "good" he had is still up for debate]].

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: His back-story and StartOfDarkness existed for good and were meant to garner sympathy, especially when he was an allied character on the playable roster. As seen with how many negative tropes he carried, they failed to save him from being considered unsympathetic or perhaps made him look even worse.

* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: While the enemies that the Steel Dragon Battle Group faced could be nightmarish and some of their enemies were just plain nasty and heinous. But the one that gets the most ire of the fans is Lee Linjun, because he's such an enormous jerk and the player had to put up with him for a considerable time in the Inspector War as an ally [[TheLoad who generally just makes things worse]], and after he betrays the good guys, he caused the death of the beloved Daitetsu Minase. Even when he does something right and beneficial for the climax of the Sealing War, the fans aren't so easy to just accept his redemption and still consider him the most hateable asshole in the cast.

* TierInducedScrappy:
** Despite Sanger being one of the top characters in the ''Second Original Generation'', players can't seem to figure out what benefits his Ace Bonus provides[[note]]When Sanger reaches 130 Will, auto-cast the "Fury" Spirit Command[[/note]] because of the following reasons:
*** The "[[CombinationAttack Tornado Blade]]" with Ratsel's Aussenseiter already ignores barriers/defenses by default (as do all {{Combination Attack}}s in [=SRW=]).
*** Players normally cast "Fury" when they want to apply [[StatusEffects debuffs]] to enemies using specific weapons that deal debuffs (most enemy barriers/defenses can negate these attacks), and all three mecha that Sanger can pilot in this game (Dygenguard, Grungust Custom, and Grungust Type-0) do not carry the "Armor Breaker" equippable weapon to deal the debuff[[note]]Decrease enemy armor by 10%[[/note]], which makes having "Fury" pointless.
*** "Fury" would likely be used half the time in conjunction with the new "[[AttackPatternAlpha Maximum Break]]" mechanic, which also ignores barriers/defenses by default, except it isn't possible for Sanger to trigger it.
** The AM Gunner in the ''Second Original Generation'' is a unit no player wants to use as its arsenal needs a pilot who has the pilot skill "Hit & Away"[[note]]Enables movement after attacking[[/note]], weak attacks that can't be used post-movement, and [[spoiler:no Huckebein MK III to dock with to form the Huckebein Gunner, since all Huckebeins are destroyed in a mandatory event]].
** In ''The Moon Dwellers'', the Granteed: the unit cannot naturally fly, thus it's grounded; movement is cut in half whenever a unit traverses through city buildings, and the game features plenty of such city-based scenarios. Furthermore, the Granteed has little post-movement attacks, its weapons and "Orgone Cloud" barrier consume too much EN, weapon attack power is middling (even with upgrades) and the one attack in its arsenal that isn't Will dependent has pitiful range. While the [[MidSeasonUpgrade Granteed Dracodeus]] finally allows the unit flight, it becomes pointless since the rest of the game from that point on is set in space; finally, its strongest attack is locked out until completing the ''Judgment'' plot. Most players agree the unlockable [[spoiler:Coustwell Brachium]] is a better machine for Touya to use; it doesn't help ''The Moon Dwellers'' perpetually shoves Touya into the Granteed at every turn of the game.

** [[spoiler:All five units of the Huckebein series are destroyed by [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGenerationAntagonists Amara Barton]]]] in the ''Second Original Generation''; doubles as TearJerker for veteran players. Made worse if [[spoiler:players believe the rumor Bandai Namco and Creator/{{Sunrise}} were indeed responsible of getting rid of the machines because they look like Franchise/{{Gundam}}s, but with the SerialNumbersFiledOff, although the release of ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'' debunked that rumor]].

* ContinuityLockout: {{Zigzagged}} - while the developers had previously insisted players should play games in the main {{Continuity}} to understand the overall narrative, it becomes jarring when obscure Creator/{{Banpresto}} titles like ''Hero Senki: Project Olympus'' and ''The Great Battle'' series are not only referenced, but form a tie-in towards overall {{Continuity}}; even {{Spin Off}}s like ''[[VideoGame/EndlessFrontier Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier]]'' wound up making room for [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsAdvance Axel Almer]] to appear and vice versa. The Archives section for ''The Moon Dwellers'', which chronicles every major event upwards to the game, helped mitigate some of this, but it still leaves out plenty of relevant details.

* FunnyAneurysmMoment: TheReveal in ''Original Generation 2'' that Excellen has died before in her back-story adapted from ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsCompact2 Super Robot Wars Compact 2/Impact]]'' [[TearJerker will elicit some players' emotions]] when ''The Moon Dwellers'' was the final piece of work by her voice actress Creator/YukoMizutani, who passed away a month and half before its release.

* HilariousInHindsight: In this continuity, Axel having a knack to [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat cheat death multiple times]] gets a lot more hilarious in lieu of his voice actor's latter role as [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Lancer/Cu Chulainn]], where in [[Anime/CarnivalPhantasm that one spin off]] he got turned into a ButtMonkey that [[TheyKilledKennyAgain repeatedly dies for comedy.]] How many times has the cast/players wanted to say [[Memes/{{Nasuverse}} "AXEL GA SHINDA!" "KONO HITO DE NASHI!"]] only to be denied?[[note]]In a BlackComedy style, the quote is more applicable to Lamia after she was thought to be KIA (though just once), whereas Axel cheated death and saved the day later.[[/note]]

* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Removing the [[MechaExpansionPack "Boxer" and "Gunner" frames]] for the Huckebein MK III in the ''Second Original Generation'' peeved some players since it relegates the AM Gunner into TierInducedScrappy (see below) and demotes [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Ryoto Hikawa and Rio Mei Long]] for the game. ''The Moon Dwellers'' brings both frames back via an [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute EXbein]]; additionally, Ryoto and Rio have access to their own individual [=EXbein=], finally making it possible to have both frames simultaneously on the map during scenarios.
** When the English-translated Southeast Asia version of ''The Moon Dwellers'' was released, players discovered the "Archives" section, which chronicles major events in ''Original Generation'' upwards to this game, was removed. Many players weren't pleased since this made newcomers unaware of how the story has been building up towards ''The Moon Dwellers'', especially when all of the installments with regards to this {{Continuity}} were NoExportForYou, thus never had translations[[note]]While Creator/{{Atlus}} officially localized the two UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance titles, both are considered CanonDiscontinuity. Players who picked up ''The Moon Dwellers'' afterwards are guaranteed to notice something off, like the ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsReversal'' characters appearing on the roster, when they are exclusive to the series' ContinuityReboot[[/note]]. Creator/BandaiNamcoEntertainment responded by including it in a patch one month post-launch.

* EvenBetterSequel: Compared to the first game, ''Original Generation 2'' has some of the best visuals on the UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance (pre-''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment''), backed by [[CharacterCustomization greater pilot/mecha]]/[[WeaponOfChoice weapon customization]], an even larger cast and a [[HiddenDepths deeper, engaging plot]] than its predecessor.

** Beating Dark Brain himself, if you know where he originated. His debut was from an obscure Famicom game, ''SD Hero Soukessen'', where he was also a goddamn difficult final boss that many kids in the age before emulators and save states were unable to defeat. The kids have grown up, there has been other features to ease up their games now in ''OG Gaiden'', and even if Dark Brain is still utterly difficult here, with good preparation and game sense, they now have a chance to finally beat down that boss that terrorized them since childhood that they couldn't defeat with the likes of ''Ultraman''[[note]]Specifically Ultraman Taro, the final form of the Ultraman characters[[/note]], ''Kamen Rider''[[note]]Specifically Kamen Rider Black RX, the final form of the Kamen Rider characters[[/note]], ''Gundam''[[note]]Specifically Nu Gundam, the final form of the Gundam characters[[/note]] and ''Metal Heroes''[[note]]Specifically Jiban, the final form of the Metal Hero characters[[/note]].

* EvenBetterSequel: Compared to the first game, ''Original Generation 2'' has some of the best visuals on the UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance (pre-''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment''), backed by [[CharacterCustomization greater pilot/mecha]]/[[WeaponOfChoice weapon customization]], an [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters even larger cast]] and a [[HiddenDepths deeper, engaging plot]] than its predecessor.

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* FoeYay: Evidently enough with loads of SayMyName, especially during the prologue of ''The Inspectors'' with a incredibly {{Large Ham}}med '''AXEL ALMER!!!'''

** Beating Dark Brain himself, if you know where he originated. His debut was from an obscure Famicom game, ''SD Hero Soukessen'', where he was also a goddamn difficult final boss that many kids in the age before emulators and save states were unable to defeat. The kids have grown up, there has been other features to ease up their games now in ''OG Gaiden'', and even if Dark Brain is still utterly difficult here, with good preparation and game sense, they now have a chance to finally beat down that boss that terrorized them since childhood that they couldn't defeat with the likes of ''Ultraman''[[note]]Specifically Ultraman Leo, the final form of the Ultraman characters[[/note]], ''Kamen Rider''[[note]]Specifically Kamen Rider Black RX, the final form of the Kamen Rider characters[[/note]], ''Gundam''[[note]]Specifically Nu Gundam, the final form of the Gundam characters[[/note]] and ''Metal Heroes''[[note]]Specifically Jiban, the final form of the Metal Hero characters[[/note]].

** Beating Dark Brain himself, if you know where he originated. His debut was from an obscure Famicom game, ''SD Hero Soukessen'', where he was also a goddamn difficult final boss that many kids in the age before emulators and save states were unable to defeat. The kids have grown up, there has been other features to ease up their games now in ''OG Gaiden'', and even if Dark Brain is still utterly difficult here, with good preparation and game sense, they now have a chance to finally beat down that boss that terrorized them since childhood that they couldn't defeat with the likes of ''Ultraman'', ''Kamen Rider'', ''Gundam'' and ''Metal Heroes''.

** "Free Battle Mode" in ''Original Generation Gaiden'' allows players to create their own, custom battle scenes with any unit-pilot combinations available from the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 games. It's useful for finding out hidden battle quotes with certain unit/pilot match-ups, yet it equally creates this trope. If the above Lamia/Juergen scenario didn't satisfy players, they can go beyond like pitting heroic characters against HateSink {{Complete Monster}}s (see below) or the villainous {{Eldritch Abomination}}s getting pounded by {{Mook}} units.

* WinTheCrowd: {{Zigzagged}} - the announcement Bandai Namco would personally translate the Sony UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation 4}} version of ''The Moon Dwellers'' into English was universally praised. However, [[BlindIdiotTranslation the quality of the translation]] is still something discussed among players.

** Lubikka Hakkinen is a brutal, {{sadist}}ic [[PsychoForHire mercenary]] who leads attacks on civilian colonies all the while sporting a big SlasherSmile on his face. One of these attacks took the lives of the parents of Tytti Noorbuck, and this wasn't the first atrocity Lubikka had committed. When Tytti exposed him, Lubikka was forced to flee, becoming a mercenary raider who still carried out war crimes, except now he possesses a fixation on making Tytti suffer. He targets her friends and kills her lover Ricardo, all to hurt the one person who escaped him before he plans to kill her as well.