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** So... that makes Malfeas the [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Anti-Spiral King?]] I'm okay with this.
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* ...TheGame.

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* ...TheGame.The Game.
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When they take on a shape, they have created a PC. The mortals they interact with are [=NPCs=]. That's why raksha seem so alien to mortals; we live according to principles and rules they cannot ever understand, as they are fictional and are bound by rules of reality which are dependent on die-rolling. The raksha who turned themselves into Primordials are normal people who became the creators and writers of RPGs. The exalted are seen by the raksha as essentially [=NPCs=] who took the games the writers made and took them over (metaplot or simply [=NPCs=] who inject the setting with imagination and variety).

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When they take on a shape, they have created a PC. The mortals they interact with are [=NPCs=]. That's why raksha seem so alien to mortals; we live according to principles and rules they cannot ever understand, as they are fictional and are bound by rules of reality which are dependent on die-rolling. The raksha who turned themselves into Primordials are normal people who became the creators and writers of RPGs.[=RPGs=]. The exalted are seen by the raksha as essentially [=NPCs=] who took the games the writers made and took them over (metaplot or simply [=NPCs=] who inject the setting with imagination and variety).
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* Problem: Ghosts can, and usually do, decide to eventually let go and pass through Lethe. This includes Solar ghosts-Shogun Widowmaker and the Deathlords are explicitly called out as aberrations, in that they're evil ''without'' the Great Curse.



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* Problem: Ghosts can, and usually do, decide to eventually let go and pass through Lethe. This includes Solar ghosts-Shogun Widowmaker and the Deathlords are explicitly called out as aberrations, in that they're evil evil, grasping jerks ''without'' the Great Curse.


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\n\n* Problem: Ghosts can, and usually do, decide to eventually let go and pass through Lethe. This includes Solar ghosts-Shogun Widowmaker and the Deathlords are explicitly called out as aberrations, in that they're evil ''without'' the Great Curse.


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When they take on a shape, they have created a PC. The mortals they interact with are NPCs. That's why raksha seem so alien to mortals; we live according to principles and rules they cannot ever understand, as they are fictional and are bound by rules of reality which are dependent on die-rolling. The raksha who turned themselves into Primordials are normal people who became the creators and writers of RPGs. The exalted are seen by the raksha as essentially NPCs who took the games the writers made and took them over (metaplot or simply NPCs who inject the setting with imagination and variety).

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When they take on a shape, they have created a PC. The mortals they interact with are NPCs.[=NPCs=]. That's why raksha seem so alien to mortals; we live according to principles and rules they cannot ever understand, as they are fictional and are bound by rules of reality which are dependent on die-rolling. The raksha who turned themselves into Primordials are normal people who became the creators and writers of RPGs. The exalted are seen by the raksha as essentially NPCs [=NPCs=] who took the games the writers made and took them over (metaplot or simply NPCs [=NPCs=] who inject the setting with imagination and variety).

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[[WMG: A Solar can use their own personal warstrider to pilot the Sun in giant warstrider mode, which in turn can pilot Autocthon, who wields the sword of XCreation after piloting Mount Meru]]
Mainly because you can never have enough meta-,mecha. Plus this possibly happended before versus Malfeas/

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[[WMG: A Solar can use their own personal warstrider to pilot the Sun in giant warstrider mode, which in turn can pilot Autocthon, Autochthon, who wields the sword of XCreation after piloting Mount Meru]]
Mainly because you can never have enough meta-,mecha. Plus this possibly happended before versus Malfeas/
Malfeas.

[[WMG: All Solars become ghosts.]]
We know plenty of Solars who have an exaltation that belonged to someone else, and they're casually referred to as "incarnations". But there's not a single mention of anyone who is the true reincarnation of a Solar, having received their hun soul at birth. The explanation is simple: the Solar exaltation selects for people bloody-minded enough to become ghosts after death, and none of them reincarnate. It's canonical that Solar po souls almost always form hungry ghosts, this is just the other side of the coin.


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[[WMG: A Solar can use their own personal warstrider to pilot the Sun in giant warstrider mode, which in turn can pilot Autocthon, who wields the sword of XCreation after piloting Mount Meru]]
Mainly because you can never have enough meta-,mecha. Plus this possibly happended before versus Malfeas/
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*More likely that the nutrient flows are an aspect of the physical weakness that his Charms give him. We know that he is dying because he can't feed himself without access to the Wyld, so the nutrient flows are likely mostly for himself.
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\n*Except this doesn't fit Malfeas' nature or thought process at all. Malfeas is totally solipsistic. "The powerful get to make their own rules" fits Cecylene, not Malfeas

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*** The Ebon Dragon didn't create the Unconquered Sun. He got the Empyreal Chaos to do it.
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* This was actually canon for a long time, though in a circuitous route. In Hunter: The Reckoning, you find out that the Messengers have come to earth before and empowered mortals (the book makes it fairly clear that the Hunters are a new take on the Solars). You then find out, in Time of Judgment, that the Messengers are actually 1 Messenger: Lucifer, and this is not the first time he's tried this. Basically, until they moved the canon away from the World of Darkness, yes, the Unconquered Sun was Lucifer.
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* The Auditors are first-circle demons of She Who Lives In Her Name, who [[{{Understatement}} never got along very well with]] A'Tuin.

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* The Auditors are could be first-circle demons of She Who Lives In Her Name, who [[{{Understatement}} never got along very well with]] A'Tuin.
* Lu-Tze is clearly a Sidereal. Perhaps ''too'' clearly.
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* Not WMG, it's... exactly what was intended.
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* Not so much WMG, really. It's one of the easiest and fastest ways to describe Raksha to people having difficulty understanding them. Then everything falls into place.
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* ...''{{Exalted}}'' itself.

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* ...''{{Exalted}}'' itself.[[ShapedLikeItself itself]].
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* Interestingly, there is no stated "God" of the Games or the Jade Pleasure Dome... but in World of Darkness, one of God's names (in the East) is the August Personage of Jade. Coincidence? I think NOT
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[[WMG: The 100 children at the end of RotSE are the new Sidereals]]
In the comics, it isn't said if any Sidereals escaped or not; the book allows for some to have done so, but that was more for Sidereal characters. If all one hundred were murdered or fell in the final battle, the Maidens or Lytek could have easily pointed the remainder of the Empire and the Gods in the direction of the reincarnations of their Exaltations.

[[WMG: Little Beam will replace the Unconquered Sun]]
When the Ebon Dragon kills the UC, Little Beam will step up; he has the personality and virtue needed to become the new son. That's why Jupiter sealed all of his records - she couldn't risk anyone discovering his Destiny or how to alter it.

[[WMG: The Maiden of Wisdom is the Mother of the other Maidens]]
There are 15 other Maidens, each of which has 20 Exalts; they are, in turn, the children of the Maiden of Wisdom who sacrificed herself to stop the Three-Spheres Cataclysm from spreading. She will be born again (and again) by the Greater Astrology which bears her name.

[[WMG: Manosque Cyan will become the new Ebon Dragon]]
After she's knocked out during the inquisition on the Blessed Isle, she'll use her powers to escape, only to find that the Dragon is dead and now a Neverborn. She'll return to Malfeas and begin developing his powers, until she has developed his Cosmic Principle and replaced him.

[[WMG: The Ring will undergo a change after the Dragon dies]]
The Wedding Ring is forged from one of the Ebon Dragon's 3rd Circle Souls; when he dies, his souls fall with him and become Raitons. The Ring is STILL one of his souls, which means that, instead of giving the Ebon Dragon's Charms, it now gives the Charms of the Dragon That Was.

[[WMG: Whenever the Dragon (or any of the other Yozi who've undergone Fetich death) dies, the Neverborn will learn the ritual for making Akuma.]]
The Neverborn never learned how to make Akuma; the Yozi developed the ritual for that AND the Exaltation inversion. They taught the latter to the Neverborn as part of the deal for the Solar Exaltations in the Jade Prison, but never gave them the techniques for making Akuma. After the Dragon (or one of the other Yozis who have been trapped in Malfeas) dies and becomes a Neverborn, he (or she, or it) will come with the knowledge as to how to make Akuma; with it, the Neverborn can corrupt non-Abyssals into Akuma.

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[[WMG: Raksha are Role-Players.]]
When they take on a shape, they have created a PC. The mortals they interact with are NPCs. That's why raksha seem so alien to mortals; we live according to principles and rules they cannot ever understand, as they are fictional and are bound by rules of reality which are dependent on die-rolling. The raksha who turned themselves into Primordials are normal people who became the creators and writers of RPGs. The exalted are seen by the raksha as essentially NPCs who took the games the writers made and took them over (metaplot or simply NPCs who inject the setting with imagination and variety).
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** Of course, everyone in Exalted has to have a FatalFlaw, no matter how minor it may be, so a big fear for them is the potential to become [[LossOfIdentity assimilated into Gaia's ecosystem]] and become little more than a slightly-individualized HiveMind.
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* For the Record, my Gaia Season/Virtue pairings: Spring = Compassion (A time of sowing, new birth), Summer = Valor, Fall = Temperance (a moderation between the extremes), and Winter = Conviction (a hardy season, testing those who walk through it). In theory, they may be free of the Great Curse, since: a) the Yozi didn't know of them, as secretive as they were; or b) they hadn't been created yet. As child of Gaia, they also may have their own Shintai charms, since she IS a Primordial. Where Alchemicals develop attachments and "moduals," Gaian Exalts "grow" some of their charms. Nothing else has really been defined, since I'm not good at rule-writing (esp. new Charms), but here's my basic concepts.
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* My belief is that if Gaian Exalted exist, they are actually repurposed Exalted shards from lost Exalted types whose concepts were eradicated in the Three Spheres Cataclysm (i.e.: the shards of Fltarlgl are functional, but since they can only attach to people who embody Fltarlgl, and Fltarlgl does not exist except as some random string of letters meant to embody a concept this writer can't actually fathom, they're kinda SOL).
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\n[[WMG: Gaia has a second set of Exalts, who are secretly watching, waiting for her to send a signal...]]
The Terrestrial Exalts were created with her blessing, but she has a second, secret set of Exalts, waiting in the wings for her. There's a very small number of them - a hundred, like the Sidereal - divided into four Castes based on the four seasons (none exists for the Calibration). The four Castes are centered around Virtues, similar to the Fair Folk; they have subtler anima banners so that no one notices them in action. Whatever Gaia seeks out in the Wyld, she knows enough that she set the Gaian Exalts up to shield Creation from it. It's rumored that Luna is the only other person who knows about these Exalts as a collective, to keep Nara-O and the Celestial Order from finding out. Their special power relates to Geomancy, as the Sidereals' relates to Astrology and the Abyssals' to Necromancy
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* Objection: Gaia ''is'' still around! Just not most of her. Primordials can do weird things like manifest in multiple places at once, and a Primordial's jouten ''is'' that Primordial--if you kill them, it's Neverborn time, regardless of the status of their other jouten. If the Gaia in Creation dies, so does the one in the Faraway, and vice versa.




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* Objection: Gaia ''is'' still around! Just not most Gaia is also exploring the depths of her. the Wyld, and has been for thousands of years. There is no contradiction between these two statements. Primordials can do weird things like manifest in multiple places at once, and a Primordial's jouten ''is'' that Primordial--if you kill them, it's Neverborn time, regardless of the status of their other jouten. If the Gaia in Creation dies, so does the one in the Faraway, and vice versa.



versa. Gaia is only gone in the sense that she has only one jouten holding down the fort in Creation at the moment--but that jouten is still ''her'', with all of her power, intellect, and personality.


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\n\n\n\n* Objection: Gaia ''is'' still around! Just not most of her. Primordials can do weird things like manifest in multiple places at once, and a Primordial's jouten ''is'' that Primordial--if you kill them, it's Neverborn time, regardless of the status of their other jouten. If the Gaia in Creation dies, so does the one in the Faraway, and vice versa.



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[[WMG: Gaia doesn't love Luna.]]
When your girlfriend heads off into the Wyld and doesn't come back for thousands of years, you should probably get the hint. Sure, Gaia's jouten is still around. But even Luna can tell that isn't actually her. Gaia just lost interest in Luna and took off, with a lie about the "Shining Answer" to soften the blow.




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[[WMG: Autochthon is growing something.]]
Autochthonia is filled with tubes containing nutrients that can support human life. But they don't seem to be for the benefit of humans. They don't have convenient outlets, so humans had to learn to tap them. And they're just as common in the uninhabited regions. Obviously all the nutrient lines are actually feeding something biological in the uncharted reaches.
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All 700 Celestial Exalted, for a start. They found a new way to regenerate.
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[[WMG: The {{Discworld}} is located out in the Wyld somewhere.]]
Great A'Tuin is the Primordial of [[TheoryOfNarrativeCausality Narrative]], who [[GenreSavvy realised that the Exalted were going to win]] the Primordial War and wandered off into the Wyld with a chunk of Creation to play out his stories in peace.
* The Auditors are first-circle demons of She Who Lives In Her Name, who [[{{Understatement}} never got along very well with]] A'Tuin.

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*** Autochthon built the pattern spiders and has his own set of Mark 2's.


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** It's out now. It has stats. She's an Earth-aspected Dragon-Blood.

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