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** Show UltimateBlacksmith Angus the [[InfinityMinusOneSword Masamune katana]], and he'll take it as a challenge to his art. This will start a ChainOfDeals quest, culminating with him forging Durandal, a claymore that serves as the true InfinityPlusOneSword.
** Alice decides to get a scimitar or kris
** Show UltimateBlacksmith Angus the [[InfinityMinusOneSword Masamune katana]], and he'll take it as a challenge to his art. This will start a ChainOfDeals quest, culminating with him forging Durandal, a claymore that serves as the true InfinityPlusOneSword.
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** Alice was scavenging for weapons and that katana is the only bladed weapon she could find (or maybe the only weapon she could find, period).
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** Alice's katana is capable of halving a bronze statue, something she cannot seem to do with any other sword.
** Alice's capability to wipe out an entire army single-handedly is directly attributed to the fact she's the only character in the franchise who wields a katana.
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** Alice's katana is capable of halving can cut a bronze statue, statue in half, something she cannot seem to do with any other sword.
** Alice'scapability ability to [[OneManArmy wipe out an entire army single-handedly singlehandedly]] is directly attributed to the fact that she's the only character in the franchise who wields a katana.
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** Bob thinks Alice is so deadly because of her foreign katana, and steals it. [[TheManMakesTheWeapon So Alice trounces Bob with his old claymore instead]].
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** Alice's katana is powerful, but she becomes over-reliant on it and cannot effectively fight if she is disarmed
* '''Reconstructed:''' Alice bought a replica under the impression it was a genuine katana. Once she gets her hands on a real one, it turns out to be the superior sword after all.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Upon seeing Alice has a katana, the cunning General Leopold immediately orders his claymore-wielding troops to retreat, and commissions a group of smiths to arm said troops with more katanas.
* '''Played For Drama''': Alice is wandering around in an AlienInvasion desperately scavenging equipment. The katana looks like the best sword there is because it may be the ''only'' sword there is.
* '''Played For Horror''': Alice spends more time using a katana during her murder spree that she does wielding any other weapon.
* '''Reconstructed:''' Alice bought a replica under the impression it was a genuine katana. Once she gets her hands on a real one, it turns out to be the superior sword after all.
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** Alice trains with her 'lesser' swords as well as her katana, but she also takes measures to keep from losing it.
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** Alice's goes through a variety of Eastern and Western swords during her quest, finding quality craftsmanship and VendorTrash alike in both camps. But her InfinityPlusOneSword is a Masamune katana.
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** Alice's goes through a variety of Eastern and Western swords during her quest, finding quality craftsmanship and VendorTrash alike in both camps. But her InfinityPlusOne sword InfinityPlusOneSword is a Masamune katana.
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* '''Deconstructed:''' Alice spends a hefty amount of money on a katana, fully expecting it to be better than Bob's claymore and Charlie's saber, but is dismayed when she finds out that their much cheaper swords are just as capable of doing any job her katana can do.
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** Alice's katana is powerful, but she becomes over-reliant on it and cannot effectively fight if she is disarmed
** Alice spends a hefty amount of money on a katana, fully expecting it to be better than Bob's claymore and Charlie's saber, but is dismayed when she finds out that their much cheaper swords are just as capable of doing any job her katana can
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* '''Reconstructed:''' Alice bought a replica under the impression it was a genuine katana. Once she gets her hands on a real one, it turns out to be the superior sword after all.
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