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** When he moves out, he ends up in an apartment above the garage a couples house. They proceed to cook his dinner, boss himaround, and in general act like his new parents.

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** When he moves out, he ends up in an apartment above the garage of a couples married couple's house. They proceed to cook his dinner, boss himaround, him around, and in general act like his new parents.

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** Seamus' mom moves into his house.



** Seamus' mom moves into his house.
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** Seamus O'Taku is 65, but he still lives with his 90-year-old mother... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh]], and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin]].

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** Seamus O'Taku is 65, 75, but he still lives with his 90-year-old 100-year-old mother... and he still STILL expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh]], and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin]].

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* '''Averted''': Seamus does not live with his parents.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Seamus does not live with his parents.parents.
** Seamus lives with his parents, but he is still a child, so there is no stigma against him.
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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, presumably without ever finishing college or getting a job.

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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, presumably (presumably) without ever finishing college or getting a job.
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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, despite having completed college.

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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, despite having completed college.presumably without ever finishing college or getting a job.

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* '''Exploited''': Seamus' father uses him as an errand boy, trusting that he will be so desperate for ''something'' to do that he won't complain when Dad assigns him some task [[BreadEggsMilkSquick weirder and creepier than anything he's had to do in his life]].


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* '''Exploited''': Seamus' father uses him as an errand boy, trusting that he will be so desperate for ''something'' to do that he won't complain when Dad assigns him some task [[BreadEggsMilkSquick weirder and creepier than anything he's had to do in his life]].

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** Seamus finds that he can't find meaningful work after graduation, and is forced to move back in with his parents.
** Seamus loses his job, and can't pay the bills. He doesn't have any savings, because either a) he's used it up while between jobs or b) all the money went towards bills (or perhaps [[CrackIsCheaper his interests]]), so he's been living pretty much hand-to-mouth up until now.
** Seamus just got out of {{Prison}}, and he's having trouble finding ''any'' kind of work, because few (if any) companies want to hire an ex-con. So he has to rely on his parents until he ''can'' find something and put that behind him.
* '''Exploited''': Seamus' father uses him as an errand boy, trusting that he will be so desperate for ''something'' to do that he won't complain when Dad assigns him some task [[BreadEggsMilkSquick weirder and creepier than anything he's had to do in his life]].
** Bored and lonely in her EmptyNest, Seamus' mother conspires to get him fired and evicted so he'll come back home.



** Bored and lonely in her EmptyNest, Seamus' mother conspires to get him fired and evicted so he'll come back home.
* '''Exploited''': Seamus' father uses him as an errand boy, trusting that he will be so desperate for ''something'' to do that he won't complain when Dad assigns him some task [[BreadEggsMilkSquick weirder and creepier than anything he's had to do in his life]].
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** Seamus is actually a secret agent, and his "mom" is actually his handler.


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** When he moves out, he ends up in an apartment above the garage a couples house. They proceed to cook his dinner, boss himaround, and in general act like his new parents.
** Seamus [[NoSocialSkills has no skills outside of his technical abilities]], so his handler has to supervise him in a very parental way.

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* '''Downplayed''': Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[ObliquelyObfuscatedOccupation nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[ObliquelyObfuscatedOccupation nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.
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** Seamus' parents are landlords who cut him a break on the rent in their building. They don't live in the same apartment.
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** Seamus is actually ''married'' and lives with his wife and kids...in his mom's basement.

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** Seamus is actually ''married'' and lives with his wife and kids... in his mom's basement.



** Seamus' house or apartment burned down, and he had to move back in with his mom...but only until he finds a new place to live.

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** Seamus' house or apartment burned down, and he had to move back in with his mom... but only until he finds a new place to live.



* '''Parodied''': Seamus ''finally'' gets a girl home and is making out with her on the basement couch. [[ParentsWalkInAtTheWorstTime His mom comes down with juice and cookies]]...and his date leaves in disgust.

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* '''Parodied''': Seamus ''finally'' gets a girl home and is making out with her on the basement couch. [[ParentsWalkInAtTheWorstTime His mom comes down with juice and cookies]]... and his date leaves in disgust.



* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for their less fortunate DropInCharacter friend, Seamus. A lot of Seamus' anecdotes seem to involve his parents, as well, but whenever he's asked about his living arrangements he changes the subject.

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* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ...detail... not so for their less fortunate DropInCharacter friend, Seamus. A lot of Seamus' anecdotes seem to involve his parents, as well, but whenever he's asked about his living arrangements he changes the subject.



** Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}.

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** Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}. He is extremely depressed and hates himself, due to being such a loser and wasting so much of his life.



** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life...and is framed for a crime he didn't commit.

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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life... and is framed for a crime he didn't commit.
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.

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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{Nerd}} {{nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.
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* '''Downplayed''': Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[WhatExactlyIsHisJob nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.

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* '''Downplayed''': Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[WhatExactlyIsHisJob [[ObliquelyObfuscatedOccupation nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.
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* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for their less fortunate friend, Seamus.

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* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for their less fortunate DropInCharacter friend, Seamus.Seamus. A lot of Seamus' anecdotes seem to involve his parents, as well, but whenever he's asked about his living arrangements he changes the subject.

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-sixties and still lives with his 90-year-old mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin]].

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-sixties and 65, but he still lives with his 90-year-old mom...mother... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh]], and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin]].



** Seamus' mom moves into his house.

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** Seamus' mom moves into his house. house.
* '''Gender Inverted''': [[ClosetGeek Alex]] has yet to move out of her family's house, even though she's through with higher education, has a relationship and a job.



* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Exploited''': ???Seamus' father uses him as an errand boy, trusting that he will be so desperate for ''something'' to do that he won't complain when Dad assigns him some task [[BreadEggsMilkSquick weirder and creepier than anything he's had to do in his life]].



* '''Implied''': Seamus' friends Mike and Alex have moved in together away from their parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for Seamus.

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* '''Implied''': Seamus' friends Mike and Alex Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for their less fortunate friend, Seamus.



* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive Out There.

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* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive Out There.'Out There'.

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* '''Inverted''': Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his twelfth birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his twelfth birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.



* '''Subverted''': Seamus is first introduced living in his mother's basement. It's later revealed that he's getting his own penthouse apartment knocked through into the flat below and had to move out while the builders were working; he came to his mother's house to try one more time to persuade her to move into the mansion he bought her, but she won't budge.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Seamus is first introduced living in his mother's basement. It's later revealed that he's getting his own penthouse apartment knocked through into the flat below and had to move out while the builders were working; he came to his mother's house to try one more time to persuade her to move into the mansion he bought her, but she won't budge.



* '''Double Subverted''': ...And then he's bankrupted, and has to move back home for real.

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* '''Double Subverted''': ...Subverted''':
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And then he's bankrupted, and has to move back home for real.
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** Seamus' mom moves into his house.


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** Seamus saves up enough money to move into a low-rent apartment downtown.


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** But finds he can't make it on his own when times get tough, and has to move back home.

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* '''Invoked''': Seamus loses his job and can no longer afford to pay the rent and bills.

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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Annoyed at the responsibilities of adult life,
Seamus loses gets himself fired and blows all his job money so he can fall back into the safety net of living with his parents.
** Bored
and can no longer afford lonely in her EmptyNest, Seamus' mother conspires to pay the rent get him fired and bills.evicted so he'll come back home.

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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents

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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parentsparents.



** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-60's and still lives with his 90-year-old mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]
** Seamus O'Taku is actually ''married'' and lives with his wife and kids...in his mom's basement.
* '''Downplayed''': ???

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-60's mid-sixties and still lives with his 90-year-old mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]
virgin]].
** Seamus O'Taku is actually ''married'' and lives with his wife and kids...in his mom's basement.
* '''Downplayed''': ???Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[WhatExactlyIsHisJob nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.



** Seamus is careful with his money, and high house prices/rents mean he doesn't want to justify moving out.
* '''Inverted''': Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 12th birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.

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** Seamus is careful with his money, and high house prices/rents mean he doesn't want to can't justify moving out.
* '''Inverted''': Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 12th twelfth birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.



* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Seamus' employment situation is a revolving door, and he lives in his own apartment or house while he's actually able to work but goes back to his family whenever he's not.



* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her.)

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* '''Implied''': Seamus' friends Mike and Alex have moved in together away from their parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail ... not so for Seamus.
* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her.)her).



** Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}

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** Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}{{Hikikomori}}.



** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life...and is fingered for a crime he didn't commit.

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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life...and is fingered framed for a crime he didn't commit.



%%* '''Implied''': ???
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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-60's and still lives with his (90-year-old) mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-60's and still lives with his (90-year-old) 90-year-old mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]

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* '''Played Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, despite having completed college.

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* '''Played Straight''': '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, despite having completed college.



* '''Inverted''':
** Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 12th birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.
* '''Subverted''':
** Seamus is first introduced living in his mother's basement. It's later revealed that he's getting his own penthouse apartment knocked through into the flat below and had to move out while the builders were working; he came to his mother's house to try one more time to persuade her to move into the mansion he bought her, but she won't budge.

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* '''Inverted''':
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'''Inverted''': Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 12th birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his parents refusing to give him a raise in his pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.
* '''Subverted''':
**
'''Subverted''': Seamus is first introduced living in his mother's basement. It's later revealed that he's getting his own penthouse apartment knocked through into the flat below and had to move out while the builders were working; he came to his mother's house to try one more time to persuade her to move into the mansion he bought her, but she won't budge.

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's and still lives with his mom. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's mid-60's and still lives with his mom.(90-year-old) mom... and he still expects ''her'' to take care of ''him''. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]



** It's not that Seamus ''can't'' leave the house, [[StrawLoser he]] [[ManChild just]] [[{{Hikikomori}} won't.]]



** Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 18th birthday.
** Seamus has his own home, and his mother comes to live with him.
* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice still lives with her parents, despite being an adult.

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** Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 18th birthday.
** Seamus has
12th birthday, bought with money he made on the stock market in the name of a fake identity he created for himself. This was all in protest to his own home, and parents refusing to give him a raise in his mother comes pocket money. When his dad loses his job, they're forced to live with him.
* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice still lives with her parents, despite being an adult.
in ''his'' basement. HilarityEnsues.



** Seamus is away at college.
** Seamus is living in a low-rent apartment downtown.
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** But he goes home every weekend.
** But then finds he can't make it on his own and moves back in with his parents.

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** Seamus is away at college.
** Seamus is
first introduced living in a low-rent his mother's basement. It's later revealed that he's getting his own penthouse apartment downtown.
knocked through into the flat below and had to move out while the builders were working; he came to his mother's house to try one more time to persuade her to move into the mansion he bought her, but she won't budge.
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** But he goes
Subverted''': ...And then he's bankrupted, and has to move back home every weekend.
** But then finds he can't make it on his own and moves back in with his parents.
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** Seamus is careful with his money, and high house prices/rents mean he doesn't want to justify moving out.

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's and still lives with his mom. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]

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** Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's and still lives with his mom. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]] ]]



* '''Downplayed''': ???



** Seamus' house or apartment burned down, and he had to move back in with his mom...but only until he finds a new place to live.

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** Seamus' house or apartment burned down, and he had to move back in with his mom...but only until he finds a new place to live.



* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice still lives with her parents, despite being an adult.

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* '''Gender Inverted''': Alice still lives with her parents, despite being an adult.



** Seamus is living in a low-rent apartment downtown.

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** Seamus is living in a low-rent apartment downtown.



** But then finds he can't make it on his own and moves back in with his parents.
* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her.)
* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive Out There.

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** But then finds he can't make it on his own and moves back in with his parents. \n* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her.)\n* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive Out There.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Be quiet. Mom doesn't like it when I listen to loud music."

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Be quiet. Mom doesn't like it when I listen to loud music." '''Zig Zagged''': ???



* '''Lampshaded''': "Be quiet. Mom doesn't like it when I listen to loud music."



* '''Defied''': Seamus doesn't want to move back with his mom. He instead lives off his emergency fund as long as he can while looking for a job, or crashes at a friend's apartment.

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* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Seamus doesn't want to move back with his mom. He instead lives off his emergency fund as long as he can while looking for a job, or crashes at a friend's apartment.



* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her.)
* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive Out There.



** Seamus shares an illicit and unhealthy relationship [[ParentalIncest with his mother]] and/or has MommyIssues.
** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life...and is fingered for a crime he didn't commit.

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** Seamus shares an illicit and unhealthy relationship [[ParentalIncest with his mother]] and/or has MommyIssues.
MommyIssues.
** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life...and is fingered for a crime he didn't commit.



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** It's not that Seamus ''can't'' leave the house, [[StrawLoser he]] [[AdultChild just]] [[{{Hikikomori}} won't.]]

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** It's not that Seamus ''can't'' leave the house, [[StrawLoser he]] [[AdultChild [[ManChild just]] [[{{Hikikomori}} won't.]]
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[AdultChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents

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'''Basic Trope''': An [[AdultChild [[ManChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents

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* '''Exaggerated''': Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's and still lives with his mom. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
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Seamus O'Taku is well into his mid-40's and still lives with his mom. Oh, yeah, and he's [[NerdsAreVirgins still a virgin.]]



* '''Justified''': Seamus O'Taku is unable to find a job that pays well enough to allow him to move out.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Seamus O'Taku is unable to find a job that pays well enough to allow him to move out.



* '''Inverted''': Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 18th birthday.

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Seamus O'Taku moved to an apartment of his own on his 18th birthday.



* '''Subverted''': Seamus is away at college.

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Seamus is away at college.



* '''Double Subverted''': But he goes home every weekend.

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But he goes home every weekend.



* '''Played For Drama''': Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}

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* '''Played For Drama''': Drama''':
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Seamus is a {{Hikikomori}}
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* '''Basic Trope''': An [[AdultChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents

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* '''Basic Trope''': An [[AdultChild adult]] {{Nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents


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