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willyolio Since: Jan, 2001
08/28/2018 20:01:14 •••

MCU: The filler episode (Spoilers)

Non spoiler score at the beginning: 6/10, fun and passable, but weak story and characters and plotting. SPOILERS BELOW

Now, I'm not saying that this movie has no place in the MCU. I'm sure whatever happened here will end up being critically important in the next Avengers movie.

Sure, the first Ant-man movie was about smaller stakes and personal issues, and I liked that. So is this film. That's a good thing. But part of the problem with this film is that it feels cheap. Nothing really matters until the very end, and the ending also proves that just about everything preceding it barely mattered.

You have one set of villains, who are basically cannon fodder. They don't matter. They're just in the film to get shot and blown up because money or whatever. They have no character and their motivations are so basic that they really only exist to pad out the running time of the film. There's a few house arrest gags, which are kinda funny at first but after so many it just makes the FBI look like complete stooges. There's a bit more father-daughter relationship stuff which is cute. There's some romance stuff that, while it isn't forced, doesn't really have much of a point either.

Then we get to the main villain. She's interesting. She has a backstory. She's desperate, she's dying, and you can believe that she has a hope for redemption and that's interesting. The climax comes down to either her, or the heroes, because only one person can be saved but

oh wait

no

when the heroes save Janet she just comes back with unexplained magic powers and heals the antagonist of all her woes The End.

WOW that was so convenient. And boring. And pointless.

Yeah. Fun ride, filled with distractions, but the destination is really a lot blander than you were probably hoping for. This is a filler movie in the sense that it just fills the gap between other Marvel movies. Nothing really stands out about it on its own.

maninahat Since: Apr, 2009
08/24/2018 00:00:00

Yeah, the Deus Ex Machina healing hands thing was a terrible bit of writing; the villain's issues are literally solved with hand waving!

Now if I could do that scene over, I'd give it a bit more weight - don't give Janet the healing powers because that undermines the entire conflict of the movie. What would be better is if Janet sees Ghost is dying, realises that she's only going to survive if Ghost saps her power and kills her, and then makes the heroic decision to sacrifice herself and make that happen. You could have a big dramatic moment for Wasp, Michael Douglas can do a big "NOOOO", and he would finally realise that this was his wife once again being the better person.

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Valiona Since: Mar, 2011
08/28/2018 00:00:00

It\'s implied that Janet only temporarily stabilized Ava\'s condition, which is why they\'re sending Scott into the Quantum Realm in order to find a more permanent solution. The true significance of the moment is to force Ghost to realize that the people she\'d been fighting against, especially the woman she\'d intended to sacrifice to save her own life, not only never meant her any harm but actually wanted to help her- her face says it all. If there\'s an Ant-Man 3, perhaps this could follow up more on the Quantum Realm and possibly Ghost atoning for what she\'s done.

maninahat\'s proposed ending reeks of Shoot the Shaggy Dog (I\'m not saying The Stinger wasn\'t, but I personally think a good number of the people who got disintegrated are coming back somehow), and goes to show that Fix Fic writers and tropers aren\'t necessarily better writers than those who made the original works, as much as they\'d like to think otherwise.


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