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Patar136 Hero of the Winds Since: Oct, 2019
Hero of the Winds
Sep 20th 2023 at 12:08:53 PM •••

I wanted to add a note to the surrender of Japan, mentioning how the Emperor's broadcast given to the civilians had to be followed by an additional speech given to the military since fighting was still continuing in China.

Is that alright? This is the change I would implement.

The Emperor himself calls it quits. After the ruling council failed to come to a decision on what to do, he breaks the tie and gives his support for unconditional surrender on 14 August, effectively commanding his subjects to accept his decision in his first-ever radio broadcast to the whole Empire note . Following a failed last-minute coup by some junior officers who wish to continue the war—and a wave of suicides amongst his civil and military servants—the formal surrender is signed aboard the battleship USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay on 2 September.\

Edited by Patar136 I discover my own destiny as I command the winds of life!
bobwolf Since: Oct, 2013
Oct 23rd 2016 at 7:46:20 AM •••

I know this isn't wikipedia, but could I see a source for the "secret communist Japanese peace deal"? Wikipedia doesn't have that anywhere.

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MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 23rd 2016 at 10:39:42 AM •••

This may not be Wikipedia, but I agree that we should aspire to reference respectable sources.

At the time I had access to a number of sources including The Battle for China: Essays on the Military History of the Sino-Japanese War of 1937-1945 (http://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=12272). That is probably where the information came from, though a very quick google search indicates that that the information's not exactly... revolutionary.

Badumptish.

"Peace deal" would be going too far, however. Neither side wanted to waste (scarce) resources fighting, so they didn't.

Edited by MAI742 Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
Sjebens Since: Aug, 2012
Oct 17th 2015 at 10:24:31 AM •••

Before I removed it, this article stated that when the USS Indianapolis was sunk, an atomic bomb went down with it. I would like to know where they got this information. The Indianapolis brought the bomb parts to Tinian and was sunk on its return trip. There is no reason there would have been a bomb aboard at that time, and I have never seen even a hint that it happened.

If the original poster could cite the source of their information it would be appreciated.

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MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 25th 2015 at 6:59:45 PM •••

Seconded. Never heard of that before I saw it on the page.

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
Rmpdc Since: May, 2015
Oct 25th 2015 at 7:38:12 PM •••

IIRC, The Indianapolis already delivered the components to Tinian by the time it sank. And the sub that sank it came from a routine supply trip to Rabaul.

Edited by Rmpdc The Fight Continues!
MAI742 Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 26th 2015 at 8:50:52 AM •••

Hmm. Quite possible someone was honestly mistaken.

Happens a lot if you're familiar with general overviews alone, especially if it's just the one overview.

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. — Mark Twain
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