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SelMelvins Yuli Ban Since: Oct, 2013
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Dec 12th 2013 at 1:10:43 PM •••

Now that I've effectively made this the text version of Metal Evolution, I'm starting to wonder how in-depth this should go. We could clean it up and give us a more concise history: that is, remove the bits about alternative metal, doom metal, grindcore, etc. OR we could make this into a definitive Tell All about metal. I've done excessively much for doom metal (always felt that it never got the respect it deserves) and expanded upon alternative metal (which, even if not definitively metal, still made a big impact on the sound) but is this enough?

wmdkitty Since: May, 2009
Apr 3rd 2010 at 1:24:58 AM •••

RE: Metallica — Dave Mustaine was replaced by Cliff Burton. Burton died in a bus accident, and was replaced by Kirk Hammet.

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Xaris Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 3rd 2010 at 10:36:40 AM •••

Uh, Cliff was a bassist and played along side of Dave after their original bassist left (because he hated Dave). When Dave was fired, they hired Kirk. Cliff had played along side both of them.

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WoolieWool Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 1st 2010 at 7:58:11 PM •••

Uh, Cliff was a bassist and played along side of Dave after their original bassist left (because he hated Dave). When Dave was fired, they hired Kirk. Cliff had played along side both of them.

Correct. Cliff Burton didn't even play the same instrument--he played bass, while Kirk and Dave are guitarists. Cliff and Dave only played together for a very short while though before Dave got the boot, since by the time Cliff replaced Ron McGovney, Dave had alienated pretty much everyone with his bad behavior.

(Oops, mistook edit for quote. Why should someone be able to edit someone else's discussion posts at all? That doesn't even make sense!)

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WoolieWool Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 18th 2010 at 6:53:11 PM •••

Quick question to whoever put the visual kei bands there—what really is there musically to distinguish visual kei from power metal enough to get their own listing? "They dress funny" does not make them a subgenre of their own. In my original listings I did not list individual scenes, and for good reason—there are hundreds upon hundreds of metal scenes, and minutiae like the history of the Stockholm death metal scene vs. the Gothenburg melodeath scene or Les Legions Noires' silly antics falls outside the scope of this article.

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