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ScaryTerry Since: Apr, 2016
Dec 14th 2016 at 3:54:38 PM •••

Superwoman of Earth 3, (Crime Syndicate) is not and was never based on Mary Marvel. Her civilian identity has *always* (and even in new continuities) been Lois Lane.

In fact, I'm not entirely sure why she'd be listed here at all. She's no one's sidekick, and is most likely the *actual* leader of their Crime Syndicate.

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AnnieLeonhardts Since: Dec, 2013
Dec 6th 2016 at 7:58:48 AM •••

Does Yuno really fit into this trope? Sure, she's a scary, violent [[Yandere]], but she's missing the frigid, rational personality. She seems too emotional to be a true Baroness. While some interpretations of this trope can be attracted/have sexual tension with the hero, is it usually their main motivation? This trope also usually (but not always) implies a position of power as the Big Bad or The Dragon. Yuno's a Villain Protagonist who's only looking out for herself and Yuki. Being a female villain doesn't automatically put you in this trope. Cute and Psycho? Yes. The Baroness? Not so much. I'm not too familiar with this series though, so feedback would be nice.

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Starshock Since: Feb, 2015
Jul 26th 2015 at 11:03:06 AM •••

Would a male version or equivalent of The Baroness be possible?

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dynamicdragon Since: Oct, 2011
Nov 23rd 2010 at 1:18:07 PM •••

Am I the only one who thinks this page should be split into The Baroness and The Rosa Klebb? After all, the two types are very different

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Gonzalo84 Since: Apr, 2010
Dec 13th 2011 at 2:01:58 PM •••

Me too... it becomes confusing, we could have The Baroness for the sexpot and The Frau or The Klebb for the other one

More Since: Mar, 2014
Jun 15th 2015 at 2:48:08 PM •••

Yeah, tropers think to much of the sexpot variety.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
Mar 2nd 2015 at 1:02:56 PM •••

What does this actually have to do with nobility?

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
Apr 5th 2015 at 3:56:02 PM •••

Ojou says, "A character saying "oujo-sama to oyobi" (roughly, "Call me queen") implies something else entirely," so does The Baroness have anything to do with nobility?

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Apr 5th 2015 at 10:09:34 PM •••

This trope is named after a character from G.I. Joe, it doesn't really have anything to do with nobility. I believe (not an expert here) that "oujo-sama to oyobi" is something a domineering woman might say.

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182.239.155.252 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 28th 2011 at 2:42:17 AM •••

How about Baroness Penelope St John Orsini, out of Paul Kenyon's books - The Baroness series? One would almost think that the name of this type could have been referenced from there, however I couldn't find an entry?

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ppsantos Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 11th 2011 at 10:58:41 PM •••

There's actually a big group of Baroness fans that discuss this highly-entertaining spy series at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBaroness/

The group's archive has name of the real author, unpublished titles, etc. It's worth checking.

BigT @@[=grimAuxiliatrix=]@@ Since: Jan, 2001
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Jun 9th 2010 at 5:07:40 PM •••

Removed Conversation In The Main Page. Also, as what is described is its own form of charm, and that it is only evil people who kill without regard to alignment, I saw no reason to integrate into the main entry.

  • Sesshoumaru has charm? Allure, maybe, but he's about as charming as an ice cube... that might decide to stab you if you talk to it for too long. Also, Kagura clearly enjoys slaughtering people and youkai without any concern as to their moral alignment, as long as she's not really in any danger herself, but she doesn't seem to have any ambition besides her freedom and would probably not have killed anywhere near as many people if she wasn't under someone else's completely monstrous thumb. And she also seems to have a soft spot for Kohaku, probably out of sympathy for his forced loyalty and a fondness for her eventual co-conspirator.

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