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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)

Mar 20th 2021 at 10:58:38 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Duplicate Trope, started by PRH on Nov 27th 2013 at 5:59:41 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

PinkElephantOnParade Since: Apr, 2016

May 20th 2016 at 10:39:24 AM •••

Can someone please explain to me how this relates to The War on Straw in any fashion? Why is the title the way it is?

"I wish that Mark Twain was still alive so that I could say 'oh hai, Mark' to him."

MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011

Sep 29th 2013 at 6:55:37 PM •••

This needs a trip to the TRS. Badly.

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TigerHunter Since: Mar, 2010

Jul 30th 2014 at 11:28:58 AM •••

Seconded.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)

Jul 30th 2014 at 12:08:07 PM •••

The trope is "a hypocrite who does not actually believe in their cause in the slightest and merely uses it as a cover to another end.". Yeah, the trope description is pretty fluffy. I would suggest a rewrite here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Whitewings Since: Jan, 2001

Dec 14th 2012 at 5:11:31 PM •••

How does this differ from the Hypocrite page? They seem to address the exact same thing: Characters who pretend to beliefs they do not hold.

aaeyero aayero Since: Apr, 2011

aayero

Dec 3rd 2012 at 5:05:04 PM •••

I don't think this page really knows what straw means.

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Sparklesqueak Since: Sep, 2010

Jul 4th 2012 at 8:55:44 PM •••

Does the page image really fit here? It uses N from Pokemon Black and White, but he is by and far dedicated to his cause, and is even noted in the Pokemon entry as an aversion. I think we can do better.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001

Jul 17th 2012 at 9:00:32 PM •••

Then again, it does sum up the trope in a nutshell. Though I do think we can do better. This, to me, is probably just a placeholder for a better photo.

Samadhir Samadhir Since: Jan, 2010

Samadhir

Sep 24th 2011 at 5:45:29 PM •••

Should we really have Real Life examples on this page? After all, Strawman Political doesn't allow them, partially because these people aren't specifically created to mock their viewpoints, and partially because it would degenerate into Flame Bait and Complaining About People You Don't Like very quickly. Neither does the main Hypocrite page, and the examples here look as if they could've been lifted wholesale from there. Also, this list is specifically about characters who don't believe in their stated philosophy, but are only using it to advance their agenda. Unless any real life person specifically admitted that he was just using an ideology for his own power, we have no way of knowing what they "truly believed". I would suggest that we just get rid of the Real Life section.

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DoctorScience Since: Dec, 2009

Oct 23rd 2011 at 2:02:51 PM •••

I was just about to post the same thing. All of the other "Straw soandso" pages have explicit instructions NOT to add real life examples, as the trope is applied only to fictional people.

I have a master's degree in science!

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