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lavendermintrose Since: Nov, 2012
Nov 23rd 2016 at 7:18:55 AM •••

The "analysis" page is basically, "Why don't people like this? Must be because they're too soft." Shouldn't "analysis" be "why do people like this"? And no, I don't think that's fetish shaming. Though, to be honest, it does seem like most of why people "like" this is... basically revenge for their "manhood" against other men that they feel aren't manly enough to have "earned" what they "have", with the woman as basically a prize. So... no, I don't think the burden of proof is on the naysayers. (Though, something like this shouldn't be a burden-of-proof situation in the first place. So there's another layer to why the "analysis" on this article is unnecessary.)

..... also there is an NTR yuri manga with an anime coming out soon. It's described as such.

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Lyner Since: Sep, 2014
Dec 18th 2021 at 9:32:49 PM •••

I fully agree. An "analysis" of a genre that most frequently consists of women being assaulted, completely overwhelmed by pleasure, and then dumping the self-insert for the bastard that r*ped her just because he's bigger and better in bed shouldn't be "people must hate this because they're too obsessed with the ideal purity of relationships". It's legitimately understandable why many would find it hard to "enjoy" a story where you're asked to take the perspective of someone who's been overpowered and/or betrayed and left watching the action without any chance of getting any. As a romance it's tragic regardless of ideals; as erotica it's a very niche fetish. The first question/statement shouldn't be "why are people so obsessed with purity that they can't enjoy this", it should be "why do some people find such 'bad end' scenarios so fun".

All that said, I do think that the obsession with purity is a thing in Japan, and might be an unfortunate part of why I hardly ever encounter the "netori-gaeshi" that I personally love (the guy takes her back). If a girl was stolen from the hero and he managed to get her back, I'd say that was a pretty darn good read, but too many people over there would throw away anything that suggests a guy should accept a woman who's known someone besides him.

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Lyner Since: Sep, 2014
Dec 18th 2021 at 9:20:23 PM •••

Wonder if there's room to describe the two additional subgenres/plot dynamics: "netori" and "netori-gaeshi". Netori is just NTR from the taker's perspective, focusing not on a hero losing his girl to someone but a "hero" taking someone's girl. Netori-gaeshi is where the hero's girl was taken and he goes to take her back.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Dec 10th 2015 at 9:14:10 PM •••

There are only two Anime entries on the Cuckold page, so the decision to not allow examples to be listed here is clearly not working out.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Dec 11th 2015 at 12:30:34 AM •••

Huh? Not sure what logic you are following there. The scope of not listing examples here has nothing to do with the other page.

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