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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012
Sep 29th 2015 at 11:39:36 AM •••

As much as I love Homestuck, does that particular example really belong here? Terezi really didn't do any kind of scamming or game of wits, she just told Doc Scratch something that would get him nice and pissed at a person she happened to want revenge on. That's the equivalent of me telling a big tough guy that the dude over there insulted his mother in order to get him to beat him up.

justaskin Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 10th 2012 at 7:15:49 PM •••

What about when it is a powerful, all-knowing robot type instead of a god? Usually with the hero defeating it with its own logic.

Would that count as this trope or be its own sub-trope? I'm thinking of Fallout 3, but I'm sure it has been used before, you know "Error! Error! Does not compute! Initiating self-destruct sequence!"

Stoogebie Since: Apr, 2011
Sep 16th 2011 at 12:33:34 AM •••

Would it be a subversion if the supernatural entity in question isn't necessarily "scammed," but rather just bribed?

Hamza Since: Aug, 2012
Jul 6th 2011 at 2:10:10 AM •••

1d4chan. Also, that isn't Tzeentch, that's just a Lord of Change, one of his generic greater daemons.

gorgardard clockwork romance device Since: Jan, 2001
clockwork romance device
Jun 27th 2011 at 1:47:50 PM •••

Removed a particularly shoehorned example - Lyra tricking Iofur in His Dark Materials. Iofur is, surely, a badass armored bear, but he is not a supernatural entity. Mrs. Coulter tricking Metatron counts though.

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