Fridge Spider Man Far From Home Discussion

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009

Jul 22nd 2019 at 7:15:35 AM •••

Has anyone considered the implications of what would have happened if Mysterio's plan had gone according to plan? He would have been hailed as a 'hero', take possession of the Stark drone army, eliminated Talos before he could be exposed, and set himself up as a new 'Avenger'... so what would have happened when he faced a legitimate threat that he didn't create himself? He would be dead and the world in serious trouble; more proof that Beck genuinely doesn't think things through.
- Not to mention that sooner or later, the more experienced Avengers would figure out that Beck was a fraud. You can only hide an entire behind-the-scenes team and a drone army for so long, after all. And if all the Avengers were called to work together against a threat, it would be pretty obvious that Beck wouldn't be doing any actual damage in battle with his "attacks".
- Considering that one of the only surviving and functional Avengers is Wanda, a mind reader, it's only logical that she'd be the next target for Beck's EDITH drones to assassinate, soon as Fury was dead. Mysterio couldn't risk letting her get anywhere near him or the members of his crew.
- There's also the fact that Mysterio has to keep up his act at all costs. Most likely, he'd be outright working with any villains to keep his secret alive, and continue deceiving the public and the Avengers of his true intentions. Making him an outright traitor and threat to the Avengers.
- He also likely would have killed off or disgraced at least a few others to keep up the masquerade, and he was smart enough to have likely known enough to try and vary it and eliminate as many common threads as possible to keep people from getting suspicious. The reason that London was his undoing was because he threw the plan together on the fly and wasn't thinking clearly; Beck, when he has time to plan, is far more dangerous. He would have gradually privately assassinated Avengers or set them up to be killed, created false flag attacks that implicated others, and would have swept the remaining few under his thrall to serve as his muscle. It would have eventually fallen apart, but not before Beck effectively destroyed them and their credibility.

Fridge is about things that happened or must have happened in the background that are horrifying when you think about it. They are not what-if spin-off ideas that clearly did not happen. "If the villain had won, it would be bad," is not fridge; that's the whole point of the hero stopping him. This is what-if speculation, and doesn't belong on the page.

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009

Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:27:49 AM •••

Adding this one:

And worse, it's quite clear that JJJ did not bother to do any kind of fact-checking on Mysterio's claim. What if he'd accused someone who isn't Spider-Man, and who didn't have powers with which to defend himself from said supervillains?

As before, Fridge is not "what if." Jameson did not accuse someone without powers, so this is a moot point.

BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001

Mar 2nd 2020 at 7:44:44 AM •••

Apparently, you have a different interpretation of Fridge Horror as others. Look over the description on that page. It has little to do with your definition.

MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009

Mar 2nd 2020 at 10:07:18 AM •••

Where in the description does it say that Fridge Horror is things that explicitly did not happen in the work?

What it does say is "suddenly you realize that everyone was trapped in stasis forever." It does not say "suddenly you realize that everyone could have been trapped in stasis forever if the bad guys did something they didn't actually do."

The trope is clearly the implication that something has happened or will happen as a result of the events shown in the work. "What if Jameson did this" is not the events shown in the work, because the work shows him explicitly not doing the thing.

There's no "horror" if your premise starts with, "This didn't happen."

Tuvok Since: Feb, 2010

Mar 5th 2020 at 2:07:52 AM •••

Fridge Horror has always been about some thing that happened or resulted from the work. Otherwise anything and everything could be fridge horror by the thinest of reasoning and leaps in logic. By consensus in the ATT the example was not valid because 1) Wrong person was not exposed 2) JJ got the information from a super villan who exposed the correct person 3) No logical reason for Mysterio to expose some random person and 4) Fridge Horror is something resulting which could happen or has. Random person being exposed did not happen so wrong person targeted could not happen.


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