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ThrawnCA Since: Jan, 2018
Sep 6th 2022 at 10:40:10 PM •••

I think it might be time to split this page; it's loading slowly when I'm on mobile. Maybe A-D, E-N, and O-Z. Any objections?

CrypticMirror CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
CrypticMirror
Jul 22nd 2018 at 6:00:28 PM •••

Is this fic still ongoing or is it dead/concluded?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
Jul 22nd 2018 at 6:29:05 PM •••

Still going! ... What makes you think that it isn't?

Latest page of the Discussion Thread:

https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/dungeon-keeper-ami-sailor-moon-dungeon-keeper.31639/page-376

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CrypticMirror Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 23rd 2018 at 10:39:22 AM •••

Well the site format makes it very difficult to read what is going on. Not just the way the forum lists threads, but the actual font and background are very hard to read if you have certain types of visual impairment.

I just did not want to try reading it if it was over, plus I find it hard to pick up exactly what is where from the last time I read it over on the old black chunky text on white background of the anime adventures (or whatever it was called site). There was a way to force your own browser to override the site with your own formatting on there.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
Jul 23rd 2018 at 11:46:39 AM •••

If you tell me what you remember last, I'll tell you where that is, or you could try and find it yourself.

The latest epub should be up to "Contamination Concerns", and the rest of the chapters are available on Sufficient Velocity.

If you want to start from the beginning, here's the place.

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DracoDei Bach. Sci. Mechanical Engineering Since: Oct, 2010
Bach. Sci. Mechanical Engineering
Nov 19th 2017 at 9:46:47 PM •••

Removal of mitigating circumstances for "Good Is Dumb" seems probable to have been accidental. Restore without removing additions to "Good Running Evil"?

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
Nov 19th 2017 at 10:08:01 PM •••

Agreed, but perhaps also rewrite to conform to Example Indentation in Trope Lists, if it doesn't conform.

If it's not too much work.

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Racheakt Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 20th 2012 at 11:34:26 PM •••

I'm thinking we might need to start breaking the tropes up by stroy arc, or alphabetically, since there's so many. I'll make the page more useful overall and easier to update.

Thoughts?

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Dermonster Since: Jan, 2010
Sep 21st 2012 at 7:45:24 AM •••

No. there aren't that many tropes. Also, by story arc? What.

Racheakt Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 21st 2012 at 2:14:08 PM •••

To elaborate: the Bald of awesome trope is only relevant in the post-Avatar islands arc. Each arc is theoreticly capable of standing under it's own merits as a story in a series of stories, each with it's own climax, big bad, and 'mission'. I know of a couple of fanfics that have their tropes broken up that way, so it's not a 'what' thing, really. the TV shows section has it broken up by episode, it could be like that.

For example:

The Arachne/Mallus arc

The Duel/Voyage arc

The Avatar Islands arc

And of course, overall themes, shoutouts, homages, and reoccuring plot elements as another catagory.

Alphabetically would be fine too, of course. At any rate, it's perfectly reasonable, even at this point, as it will only get harder to do as time passes and the articles lengthen.

How's that?

GLH Since: Oct, 2010
Sep 15th 2011 at 7:04:53 PM •••

I'm thinking about moving the "Draco in leather pants" trope to the YMMV page. The reason being that as "Dumb" as the Fairies seem to be with their actions, their actions actually make a great deal of sense.

From their perspective they were "Rescued" either against or without orders by Jadeite. They didn't know he was acting on orders from Mercury, Jadeite didn't help matters by being as vague as he was, and since only one of the fairies was awake at the time, the rest of them heard stories of how they were "Secretly rescued by this handsome stranger."

In a later episode where Mercury wanted to ask them a few questions and Jadeite went to bring them along, the fairies knocked him out, and as they were wondering why such a good person could be working for such an evil being, one of them put up the idea that he was brainwashed or mind controlled. When they took him along to a temple they got circumstantial evidence that he was indeed being mind-controlled (and considering the context regarding that it was a believable thought and-slash-or scene).

Even through all of that though, even though they think him to be "Good" person, they were still willing to try and kick his ass were he to attack them back in the episode "Mukrezar's Return".

So I think this is just a case of the "Viewers being Idiots" rather than a case of "Draco in leather pants", hence why unless someone puts up a good argument otherwise, I'm moving that trope to the YMMV part of the page.

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GLH Since: Oct, 2010
Jun 30th 2011 at 6:29:25 PM •••

I'm thinking of changing the link in the page from the link to the first chapter to the link to the entire story listing. This is the Link to the story listing in its entirety. Any objections to this change being made?

GLH Since: Oct, 2010
May 25th 2011 at 10:07:43 PM •••

suntzu stated in one of his edits that Calling her "Empress" is a bit of a spoiler. Should I make an effort to hide pratically all the spoilers, should we only work to avoid spoilers for the past so many chapter (say, twenty?), or what?

I ask as there is a SHITLOAD of details here that are spoilers, and the part he edited was so minor as to make me go "What? Why would you do that but not touch anything else, or even the other instances of it?"

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suntzu Since: May, 2009
May 26th 2011 at 3:39:27 AM •••

The way I see it, at least, that bit wasn't a minor spoiler. It's a major event in the story that may well change how the game is played, so to speak.

...And I edited that part specifically because it caught my eye while I was checking the history of the page. ^^'

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GLH Since: Oct, 2010
May 26th 2011 at 3:52:09 AM •••

Well, that still doesn't quite answer the question. Should I hide more details in the page, or leave it as is?

suntzu Since: May, 2009
Jun 8th 2011 at 11:04:37 AM •••

Hm. I think a few of the details should be hidden, though only those that reveal major stuff, like her big victories, Jadeite, the return of the Avatar...

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Faraway_2 Since: Feb, 2010
May 19th 2011 at 4:11:36 AM •••

Until we get a character list, I am copying the list of traits made up for the fairies courtesy of the author, in one of the more recent entries, for reference.

• Camilla: blond (yellow, healer) idealistic, cute, cheerful, round and childlike features, short, youngest

• Melissa: blue (caring, selfless), scryer, mage

• Anise: red (twin short swords), proud, glutton

• Roselle: orange (hopeful, brave, teasing)

• Cerasse: violet (tactician, snobby, neat freak) breathy tone of voice, plays chess, likes tentacle monster

• Dandel: indigo (leader, ice, eldest) professional, responsible

• Tilia: green (overconfident, observant)

suntzu Since: May, 2009
Dec 26th 2010 at 12:24:11 AM •••

-"Color Coded for your Convenience"...I thought the "dress code" was just the dark elf bullshitting Ami?

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Zungentod Since: Mar, 2011
Mar 27th 2011 at 6:37:28 AM •••

The dungeon tiles during the power grab on the Avatar Islands as well as the senshi and fairy uniforms would still count, though.

66.41.153.223 Since: Dec, 1969
Nov 14th 2010 at 8:53:24 PM •••

SUGGESTIONS/CORRECTIONS This is for people who don't want to make a login ID for whatever reason but still want to contribute. PLEASE REMOVE ITEMS as you put them into the article.

—In "Mind Control Device", change "planned on" to "considered". I don't believe they ever had anything that could be called a "plan" to kill Ami, although it was on the table before they joined her Dungeon.

—In "Crowning Moment of Awesome", either add "or defeating the FREAKING AVATAR" to the end of the list (and delete "or" from the previous item), or simply replace the ENTIRE list with this item. Capslock is optional.

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GLH Since: Oct, 2010
Mar 19th 2011 at 11:06:17 PM •••

Regarding the "Mind control device" response, it was stated twice in-story that they had considered killing Ami AFTER they had joined her. One when Ami collapsed into sleep after defeating Keeper Malleus, and another time when Jered was recounting how things were actually working out for them (save the whole deathly peril aspect they kept facing), and how he was glad that Cathy talked him out of killing Mercury when he had a chance to do so.

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