Trickquestion: The series has finally ended, and as much as it pains me to say it, Mabel never evolved past a Flat Character. Despite several attempts to have her grow and learn to be better alongside her brother, she's the exact same person she was when she got off the bus at the start of the summer and hasn't learned a thing from her adventurers, entirely because of bad writing refusing to capitalize on opportunities for growth that clearly existed, most flagrantly the fact that her handing over of the Rift was completely swept under the rug and forgotten. Despite the Mystery Twins being a hyped aspect of the show, Mabel is nowhere near an equal protagonist with Dipper and is far less complete a character than he is, which is a shame when co-current program Steven Universe shows an optimistic, friendly Cloudcuckoolander can remain all those things and while still learning from mistakes and growing as a person.
This seems to be a moment on a single character which violates the rules of DMOS, is this allowed?
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Kris Simsters: Grunkle Ford in this episode. OK, before I continue, I know that he hasn't been there for a long time and he doesn't really know Mabel, but Grunkle Ford doesn't really know Dipper either. Yes, I know they have some things in common, but he doesn't really know Dipper. He should have known that Dipper wasn't going to leave Mabel behind. Just because him and Stan has issues doesn't mean Dipper and Mabel need to have those same issues. Also, in a Whatthe Hell Hero moment, why did he tell Dipper to leave Mabel behind. Yes, he didn't know about Mabel's condition, but she is your great niece just like Dipper's your great nephew. My respect for Ford went down a lot afterwards.
This entry has a few problems. First, Ford and Dipper have been spending a lot of time together; so they should know each other very well. Second, "He should have known that Dipper wasn't going to leave Mabel behind." doesn't logically follow from "Grunkle Ford doesn't really know Dipper."
I'm going to have to object to both "Weirdmageddon, Part 2" entries for two reasons: Number one, Mabel's being a jerk is the point of the episode. She doesn't want to leave her bubble because she didn't want to grow up (and Bill may have had her under some kind of hypnosis). Number two, Bill himself said that one would need "a will of titanium" to resist the temptations in the bubble. So it would make sense that his trap worked on Wendy and Soos and almost on Dipper.
greensquid22: The 90s where dark times line in Dungeons Dungeons and More Dungeons. The whole little bit there felt like a big shot at 90 s' kids. Firstly it treats the D Da MD commercial from the 90's as if is the only decade to try and be Younger and Hipper. Hey, guess what it's not. Not even close. That concept is as old as fiction itself and not every commercial in the 90's was like that. I can understand getting annoyed at some dorks on the internet telling you their childhood was better than yours' but telling people that their childhoods took place in a dark time on a professionally made tv show is unforgivable. That's something I'd expect youtube commenter to say not a tv show. Hey news flash, not everyone born in that decade thinks their better than you and don't like having their childhoods insulted just because you got annoyed on a chat forum. I like this show but I am severely turned off by the immaturity of this statement.
I think this troper is severely overreacting. He/she is taking what is obviously meant as a pastiche of 90's ads way too seriously. Troper claims the show assumes the 90's were the only decade that tried too hard to pander to the younger generation. Excuse me? I saw nothing in the episode that suggested that. Also, keep in mind that Dipper was born no earlier than 1999 so his knowledge of the 90's is limited. Thoughts?
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I'll agree that they're overreacting a little, but I think the entry should stay, because as far as I know, no DMOS rules were broken. Remember, this index is about opinions, no matter how much of an overreaction said opinions may be.
I've deleted the following (the first one being listed under "The Time Traveler's Pig", and the second one being listed under "Abaconings"):
- Dr. Zoidsquoo - Also, it's later revealed that Robbie was using MIND CONTROL to keep Wendy from breaking up with him, so now Mabel's indirectly responsible for that, too.
- Dr. Zoidsquoo: And also the things that Waddles would have done if his mind hadn't been erased probably would have saved countless lives, but now that's gone.
The first, and most obvious, thing is that DMOS only allows one moment per troper. Second, both of these are pretty flawed.
The first moment, which, IMO, is the more flawed one, is that Wendy and Robbie already had a thing going for one another by the time "The Time Traveler's Pig" came out (see: Double Dipper), so it's a tad unfair to call Mabel "indirectly responsible" for the mind control thing.
For the second moment, Word of God stated that "Little Gift Shop of Horrors" isn't canon, and the episode flat-out states that Stan made up that story himself, so it wouldn't have mattered much in the long run (otherwise I'd be fine with this entry).
You can restore one of these moments, but only one.
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OK, I know I've started a lot of discussions on this page, and I'm sorry for going overboard, but I just had two comments about the "Bottomless Pit!" section.
"Voice Over" is a story told by Dipper that didn't actually happen. I just wanted Mudapa to know that.
In Melancholy Utopia's paragraph, everything after the sentence about wanting to punch Dipper should be removed as it turns into a general rant about the show.