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Monarch-of-the-Fen Since: Jan, 2016
Feb 16th 2020 at 1:34:51 PM •••

So Senpai's character entry lists the 'Audience Surrogate' trope as being averted: "Most works of this type would have the main character be someone the reader could self-insert as, but Senpai is very clearly not."

Is, uh... is that really the case? I mean, I get it from a statistical standpoint - you can't have bunches of lonely shut-ins per school, you'd run out of rooms - but I always figured his character type was at least reasonably common for this genre's audience. *I* can empathize. Is it really so uncommon that 'very clearly not' is accurate?

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Beiahnu Since: Dec, 2012
Feb 16th 2020 at 8:00:08 PM •••

I guess it has to do with his kinks. To be fair, I have never been particularly comfortable with that phrasing either.

Also, Senpai has too much of a personality to be an audience surrogate. He would probably be more plain otherwise.

MisterSniffs Since: Feb, 2019
Aug 10th 2019 at 2:45:03 PM •••

Now that the manga has been running for nearly two years and 40+ chapters, is it still worth referencing the original Pixiv image sets?

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Estvyk Since: Apr, 2011
Aug 10th 2019 at 4:56:32 PM •••

Eh, why not... For the sake of contrast and showing the evolution, at least, and as long as it's clearly indicated which version is being talked about. The manga wouldn't exist without the image sets and the main page isn't dancing around the author's past either.

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Beiahnu Since: Dec, 2012
Aug 11th 2019 at 8:52:21 AM •••

It depends. There are aspects of the Pixiv sets that have not been touched upon in the manga (like Nagatoro's brother, which is kinda the last major plot point not touched), and it is the work that originated the manga in the first place.

For example, the (unrelated) short-format manga My Senpai Is Annoying had a pre-serialization run which was eventually picked up for publication, but the original sets are just as important to the manga. Even though there is a greater disconnect in both manga!Nagatoro and Pixiv!Nagatoro than in that manga, it is not less important either.

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