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xVanitas Ideal and the Real Since: Mar, 2011
Ideal and the Real
Sep 23rd 2015 at 12:21:38 PM •••

I was thinking about something.

I feel as if Bill is too important to just be lumped in with the rest of the creatures and other oddities. Would a Main Antagonists page be appropriate for Bill? Gideon can go there too. And while this is Wild Mass Guessing at the time of writing, I am willing to bet that the demons from Bill's nightmare realm would have entries too, and they could go under Bill's entries on that page to pad it out more. That is, if we do see them. Plus, Bill and Gideon are basically the show's main antagonists anyway. Thanks to the "deal" that Gideon plans to make with Bill at the end of a Stanchurian Candidate, I have no doubts we will be seeing more of them soon enough.

So, basically, move Bill and Gideon to a Main Antagonists page. What do you guys think?

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madgodzulcan Since: Sep, 2013
Sep 23rd 2015 at 1:53:47 PM •••

Perhaps create a recurring creatures page?

xVanitas Since: Mar, 2011
Sep 23rd 2015 at 6:55:30 PM •••

Bill is definitely a recurring creature. Gideon is also recurring, but it would be hard to say he's a creature (even if he is a vile little child). But, I feel as if that would be too nondescript. I'd still be all for an Antagonists page, for the characters who actively opposed the main characters, and have ties to Bill, who is pretty much the show's Big Bad. On an Antagonists page, we could also put in Preston Northwest, since he most certainly has opposed the main characters on a few occasions, and is implied that he has connections to Bill. Preston, Bill, and Gideon actively oppose the main characters for their own gain and ambition. I'd want to say that most of the creatures and oddities in the show aren't actively malevolent like those three are, but were just disrupted in their own places somehow (the convenience store ghosts, the unicorns, the pterodactyl, etc) or are not even evil or bad, just weird (Mermando, the Manotaur, the Gnomes, etc). I still feel like Bill is a bit out of place on that page, not that he isn't a creature or an oddity, but for one, he's going to get more entries anyway (this one is pretty certain considering we have to see what his grand plans are, and the whole nightmare realm thing) so I feel like that'd clog up the page, and two, like I said, I just feel like Bill's very important.

Anyway, I still stand by an Antagonists page with Bill, Gideon, and Preston Northwest, although I'd still be willing to hear out more opinions.

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