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oreosparrow Since: Sep, 2013
Aug 13th 2023 at 11:11:23 PM •••

A lot of the writing for Kuzuryuu's section seems... negatively biased, to put it gently. At best, a lot of it is YMMV (for instance, calling Saionji the Only Sane Woman because she was the only one who wouldn't forgive Kuzuryuu after he returned from the hospital, when that isn't how the game presents her actions). I'd like to rewrite these entries, but there are several, and it might be too much of a change to make without asking. I don't want to delete any listed tropes, but I do think the wording needs to be rewritten to sound more objective. Would this be okay?

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Sayafan17 Since: Jan, 2023
Sep 15th 2023 at 3:43:36 PM •••

Well you can rewrite it of course as the person who originally put these entries that's fine, and i have removed only sane woman myself. As for it being biased i mean, Fuyuhiko is basically two different characters, the Fuyuhiko in the first two chapters who is intentionally written to be as unlikeable as possible and causes multiple deaths and the Fuyuhiko in the final four chapters that is written to be reliable and decent and atones for the person he was before, yeah there's negative tropes but that's because he did a lot of negative things, there's nothing that negative about him after chapter 2. You can tone it down if you want of course but i feel there should be some negative tropes here to balance out the positive and to highlight why he had a redemption arc in the first place. I have added some positive tropes myself just now.

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oreosparrow Since: Sep, 2013
Oct 8th 2023 at 11:08:14 PM •••

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it. I'll check out the new version of the page and see if there's still anything I want to change. Definitely agreed Kuzuryuu's earned the negative tropes, the wording was really the only concern I had there.

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Sayafan17 Underrated character defender :D Since: Jan, 2023
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Jan 31st 2023 at 3:11:13 PM •••

Should Fuyuhiko have a page of his own? I've noticed that his tropes page is rather large and that makes sense considering A his arc is very detailed and complex and B he's basically two different characters in game, as in the first two chapters he's an abusive hate sink and in the final four he's a genuinely likeable and decent guy. Just a question since I considered giving him his own page but I don't want to make a major change like that without consulting others.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
Jul 8th 2016 at 8:31:06 AM •••

Mehi, please stop deleting tropes critical of Komaeda without even leaving an edit reason.

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SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
Jul 8th 2016 at 11:09:34 PM •••

Okay, I asked you to come here to discuss further changes. But, since you didn't...

If it were that simple, Junko's plan was doomed from the start and there were no stakes, since releasing any of the protagonists after someone hit the "graduate" button wouldn't be something the higher-ups would condone.

You're welcome to like the character more than I do. But that doesn't mean you can just sponge away all critique of him in the process. This is not a minor plot point here. It's the main crux of the mastermind's plot. Either Nagito's plan gives her exactly what she wants, one student she doesn't care about alive and fifteen bodies to possess, or there are no stakes beyond survival for the protagonists because the people watching have the capacity to prevent Junko's escape at any cost.

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