Okay, I'm opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I'll start.
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Okay, I\'m opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I\'ll start.
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First the Maria archetype. I'm not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise's inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of 'joins mid-game'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she's not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she's forced to be sidelined, but... that's just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she's a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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First the Maria archetype. I\'m not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise\'s inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of \'joins mid-game\'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she\'s not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she\'s forced to be sidelined, but... that\'s just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she\'s a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he's a guy, but let's just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he\'s a guy, but let\'s just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he's one of the last guys to join, but that wasn't nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he's the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the 'mid-game healer'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he's Leo's son.
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he\'s one of the last guys to join, but that wasn\'t nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he\'s the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the \'mid-game healer\'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he\'s Leo\'s son.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr's Lena character, not Maria (heck I think Felicia/Jakob fit better, though they're prepromoted, they're your first ground healer before any route splits, you'd be using them more than either Sakura or Elise!). But I just don't get why she was pegged as Maria, when there's Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don't see why Forrest couldn't.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr\'s Lena character, not Maria (heck I think Felicia/Jakob fit better, though they\'re prepromoted, they\'re your first ground healer before any route splits, you\'d be using them more than either Sakura or Elise!). But I just don\'t get why she was pegged as Maria, when there\'s Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don\'t see why Forrest couldn\'t. (If anyone\'s referring to the age for Maria and Elise, please note that AGE HAS NO BEARING. Maribelle and Priscilla aren\'t exactly little girls.)
Okay, I'm opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I'll start.
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Okay, I\'m opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I\'ll start.
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First the Maria archetype. I'm not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise's inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of 'joins mid-game'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she's not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she's forced to be sidelined, but... that's just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she's a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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First the Maria archetype. I\'m not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise\'s inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of \'joins mid-game\'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she\'s not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she\'s forced to be sidelined, but... that\'s just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she\'s a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he's a guy, but let's just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he\'s a guy, but let\'s just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he's one of the last guys to join, but that wasn't nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he's the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the 'mid-game healer'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he's Leo's son.
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he\'s one of the last guys to join, but that wasn\'t nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he\'s the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the \'mid-game healer\'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he\'s Leo\'s son.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr's Lena character, not Maria (heck I think Felicia fit better, though she's prepromoted, she's your first healer before any route splits, you'd be using her more than either Sakura or Elise!). But I just don't get why she was pegged as Maria, when there's Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don't see why Forrest couldn't.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr\'s Lena character, not Maria (heck I think Felicia/Jakob fit better, though they\'re prepromoted, they\'re your first ground healer before any route splits, you\'d be using them more than either Sakura or Elise!). But I just don\'t get why she was pegged as Maria, when there\'s Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don\'t see why Forrest couldn\'t.
Okay, I'm opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I'll start.
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Okay, I\'m opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I\'ll start.
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First the Maria archetype. I'm not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise's inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of 'joins mid-game'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she's not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she's forced to be sidelined, but... that's just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she's a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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First the Maria archetype. I\'m not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise\'s inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of \'joins mid-game\'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she\'s not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she\'s forced to be sidelined, but... that\'s just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she\'s a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he's a guy, but let's just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he\'s a guy, but let\'s just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he's one of the last guys to join, but that wasn't nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he's the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the 'mid-game healer'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he's Leo's son.
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he\'s one of the last guys to join, but that wasn\'t nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he\'s the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the \'mid-game healer\'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he\'s Leo\'s son.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr's Lena character, not Maria. But I just don't get why she was pegged as Maria, when there's Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don't see why Forrest couldn't.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr\'s Lena character, not Maria (heck I think Felicia fit better, though she\'s prepromoted, she\'s your first healer before any route splits, you\'d be using her more than either Sakura or Elise!). But I just don\'t get why she was pegged as Maria, when there\'s Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don\'t see why Forrest couldn\'t.
Okay, I'm opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I'll start.
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Okay, I\'m opening discussions for the Archetypes. Anyone who would like to debate, feel free to post, this is to prevent FlameWar. I\'ll start.
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First the Maria archetype. I'm not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise's inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of 'joins mid-game'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she's not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she's forced to be sidelined, but... that's just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she's a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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First the Maria archetype. I\'m not debating its existence, it was actually pretty good. However... Elise\'s inclusion there seems a bit too forced: In Conquest, she joins early, violating the rule of \'joins mid-game\'. In Revelation, she might fit more as she actually joined Mid-game, but... she\'s not at all in distress. I thought most Maria are instead captured or in distress until they were rescued then joins on full time? There is one event in Conquest where she\'s forced to be sidelined, but... that\'s just one event, and you already recruited her, that is not the same as the other Marias who were sidelined BEFORE you rescued and recruited them. All Elise had in common with the archetype is that she\'s a Troubadour. Not exactly fitting the archetype.
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he's a guy, but let's just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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Now, I once put up an alternative: Forrest. Okay, he\'s a guy, but let\'s just look at him and how he actually fits the Maria archetype:
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he's one of the last guys to join, but that wasn't nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he's the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the 'mid-game healer'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he's Leo's son.
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* Is he mid-game? Yes! Leo is available in the middle way of Conquest, and from that you can work on him so he bore Forrest soon. This is even easier in Revelation where Challenges are available, so as soon as you get Leo (he\'s one of the last guys to join, but that wasn\'t nearing endgame), you can grind his support then get Forrest mid-game. All in all, he\'s the LATTER medic than Elise, which fits the \'mid-game healer\'
* Bonus points: Most of these characters are of nobility. Then yes, Forrest qualifies because he\'s Leo\'s son.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr's Lena character, not Maria. But I just don't get why she was pegged as Maria, when there's Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don't see why Forrest couldn't.
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If anything, Elise is pretty much Nohr\'s Lena character, not Maria. But I just don\'t get why she was pegged as Maria, when there\'s Forrest. If Lena can have Rhys as TheOneGuy, I don\'t see why Forrest couldn\'t.
