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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \\\"{{Deconstruction}}\\\" doesn\\\'t really fit?
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \\\"{{Destruction}}\\\" doesn\\\'t really fit?
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \
to:
Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \\\"Destruction\\\" doesn\\\'t really fit?
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straight, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'. Glee does more VerySpecialEpisodes than the Disney Channel nowadays.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \\\"Destruction\\\" doesn\\\'t really fit?
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straighter than on the Disney channel, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\". They are there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straighter than on the Disney channel, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \
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Can I argue that most of the stuff listed under \\\"Destruction\\\" doesn\\\'t really fit?
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\" they\\\'re there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools. The invitationals thing never happened in HSM or anything other show, so Glee can\\\'t be deconstructing it.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straighter than on the Disney channel, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
-->*Much of the show can be seen as a deconstruction of musicals but especially Episode 10 \\\"Ballads\\\" which seemed intent on showing how the classic \\\"sing your feelings\\\" trope of musicals could never work in real life. Kurt\\\'s advice for Finn to sing while thinking of \\\"his\\\" unborn daughter causes his mother to find out that Quinn is pregnant. Also, Kurt tells Finn to tell Quinn\\\'s parents through song about her pregnancy, resulting in a painfully awkward rendition of \\\"You\\\'re Having My Baby.\\\" Finally, when Will is trying to shake Rachel\\\'s crush on him, Emma gives him the idea of letting her know through song that he\\\'s not available to her, resulting in a rendition of a mash-up of \\\"Young Girl\\\" and \\\"Don\\\'t Stand So Close to Me...\\\" which is so animated and sexy that it only makes Rachel (and Emma) swoon even more.
The songs in musicals? Are for the most part [[MusicalWorldHypotheses an artistic representation]] and not literally happening. \\\"Singing your feelings\\\" and making everything better is not a musical trope, so Glee cannot be deconstructing it. Glee plays the musical tropes pretty straight.
-->*Glee can also be read as something of a send-up of the similar-at-first-glance High School Musical, with Glee serving as a lesson on how the High School Musical scenario would play out in a real-life high school, where, at the end of the day, the popular kids don\\\'t care how great your performance at invitationals was — glee kids are still geeks, and they\\\'re still going to get beaten up and shoved into lockers when they come back on Monday. Whole storylines are devoted to teen pregnancy, homophobia (or just homosexuals), drug abuse, and other things which are daily realities in many high schools but which are dusted under the rug in the kid-friendly Disney Channel vision of high school.
Glee is not a realistic deconstruction of musicals, playing out tropes how they would happen in real life. Glee isn\\\'t realistic at all. If anything it\\\'s \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' ridiculous than High School Musical. The sex, pregnancy, bullying, and other \\\"edgy\\\" elements of Glee aren\\\'t there to enhance the \\\"realism\\\" they\\\'re there to add soap opera dramatics which are then tossed aside, ignored, neglected, or forgotten DependingOnTheWriter and (with a few exceptions) never handled in any way resembling real life. And as many people have pointed out, not all Glee kids are geeks in real life (even within the show, where the majority of the club is jocks and cheerleaders) and the bullying on this show is not how it goes down in real high schools. The invitationals thing never happened in HSM or anything other show, so Glee can\\\'t be deconstructing it.
-->*In real life, makeovers aren\\\'t so miraculous.
The \\\"makeover\\\" was sabotage on Kurt\\\'s part and in no way meant as a deconstruction.
-->*Certain storylines can be seen as a send-up of or commentary on the After-School Special. The whole episode \\\"Wheels\\\" is like this, along with the celibacy club scene in \\\"Showmance\\\" (and subsequent revelation two episodes later that its president is pregnant), and the \\\"Imagine\\\" number with the deaf choir in \\\"Hairography.\\\" (It\\\'s hard to tell if \\\"Home\\\" is this or is playing the trope straight.)
Those examples were played straighter than on the Disney channel, not deconstructions \\\'\\\'at all\\\'\\\'.
-->*Episode 14 comes across as a major deconstruction of Dating Do Si Do, pointing out that you can\\\'t get over your ex immediately or automatically be ready for a relationship when the person you\\\'re interested in is available. Finn and Rachel, and Will and Emma fail right out of the gate, and Puck and Quinn are already having problems.
That was just keeping the main couples apart for drama. Tropes that play that trope straight usually do go into the details of getting over your ex and being ready for a relationship. Not a deconstruction.
-->*A subplot of Episode 15 deals with virginity. Losing it isn\\\'t all it\\\'s cracked up to be and sometimes, it\\\'s okay to say \\\"No.\\\"
There\\\'s not even a trope here to deconstruct.
-->*Emma comes across as a modern day deconstruction of The Ingenue and why such a person can\\\'t exist. She\\\'s so pure and clean she\\\'s a mysophobe, she holds onto her chastity so much that she\\\'s a virgin way into her adult years, she\\\'s so kind that she\\\'s an Extreme Doormat, and she\\\'s so naive that she can\\\'t give functional advice to her students when she is a guidance counselor. Her trying to be a Wholesome Fifties Girl is really just an attempt to hide her major insecurities and nerousis.
She\\\'s a typical nice lady character with OCD.
-->*\\\"Laryngitis\\\" played with and deconstructed the idea of unusual shipping. The relationship has potential, but ultimately it won\\\'t work out because the characters are too different.
No, it\\\'s not. It was just a filler storyline.
-->*Rachel and Finn\\\'s relationship could be seen as a deconstruction of the whole \\\'popular guy and unpopular girl fall in love\\\' genre. You can\\\'t expect it to be that easy dating someone from a different social circle with out some scorn from friends.
This didn\\\'t even happen. Finn didn\\\'t date Rachel long enough to get scorn from friends. And the entire trope played straight is \\\'\\\'about\\\'\\\' how the school reacts to it, so this wouldn\\\'t even fit if it happened.
Anyway, I think we\\\'re over-analyzing. You could still argue that it\\\'s playing tropes ironically, but...I\\\'m not even sure about that.
