Discussion History VideoGame / DynastyWarriors

It\\\'s too unfair. ESPECIALLY on Guan Yu. Okay, sure in history or novel, he could be a huge jackass (even then, he was only getting really jackass when the story is in Jing Province, beforehand, not so much). But, Koei presented him as a pretty decent guy and mostly being the WorthyOpponent here and there. This guy never would let that be, he\\\'s adamant in exposing the bad side of Guan Yu that Koei is downplaying or not touching. Why can\\\'t people enjoy the more \\\'positive\\\' portrayal of Guan Yu that Koei presented? (and for the love of God, stop spewing that novel/history line of Guan Yu in terms of not sending Guan Yinping to marriage with Sun Quan\\\'s son, that doesn\\\'t happen in the game so that can\\\'t even be in YMMV!) This is without telling other things like Cao Pi is actually an utter jackass like he was in history and his record is not as stellar as Cao Cao (when in game, he\\\'s portrayed as JerkWithAHeartOfGold and can be as good as Cao Cao cunning-wise), or Sun Quan slept with \\\'\\\'many\\\'\\\' women (when here, he\\\'s pretty much someone who just settled with one and only Lianshi and kind of {{Adorkable}} at that)... or how about that in history, even without Jia Chong, Sima Zhao is already a tyrannical dude on his own (instead of TheMessiah)? He\\\'s fine with those three presented well, but when Shu is presented well, he\\\'s adamant on showing the not-so-well thing? Come \\\'\\\'on\\\'\\\'.

\\\'People express different opinion\\\' yes, sure. But this is getting like that their opinions are all \\\"Shu, especially Guan Yu, are a bunch of hypocrites and Koei whitewashed them too much, here\\\'s the real thing that happened in history! Now stop gawking at them!\\\"... and to me... that sounds like making Shu as an AcceptableTarget and god forbid that we be sad on bad things that happen to them, or be in awe of their earlier accomplishment or liking their faction in general. As I said, history-buffs is one form of FanDumb that DynastyWarriors franchise often face, especially when the character portrayal occasionally stray from history/novel.

CreatorsPet is also a veery pet-peeve and sensitive trope, kind of like TheScrappy (hell, it used to be called \\\"The Wesley\\\" AKA \\\"Something even worse than TheScrappy\\\"). So I had to take measures. Especially when most of the \\\'complains\\\' is about Shu. It\\\'s like the one who post that seem to have a gigantic hate on Shu that they slap tropes like that on Shu (the Xiahou Dun one? I was the one to add it. The Taishi Ci one...? Inverted! Why do I feel like this editor is just having a big thing on Wu and disliked how he thinks they\\\'re treated in DW? And seriously, I don\\\'t see them being derailed into villains, even with what they did with Guan Yu. But basically, it\\\'s like this guy\\\'s promoting Wu and bash those who are \\\'harming\\\' them.) [[hottip:*:I\\\'ve done trimming such overly negative descriptions even at YMMV stuffs in other pages, regarding on characters kind of like FistOfTheNorthStar\\\'s Souther, or {{Tekken}}\\\'s Bryan Fury. They are actually even two CompleteMonster, but I usually had to trim them down so it\\\'s less cringe-worthy to read. This writeup on Shu, admittedly... I think it\\\'s getting close to those negative description.]]

And in a way \\\'neutrality\\\' has been kinda implemented here. If we see something like \\\"DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible\\\"... it\\\'s more likely to be removed with \\\"FlameBait\\\" reasoning. I removed that on terms that it could generate gigantic FlameWar, as it\\\'s like a gigantic FlameBait on its own.

Still, thanks for the consideration. Any other replies, you can reply via here or PM.

It\\\'s too unfair. ESPECIALLY on Guan Yu. Okay, sure in history or novel, he could be a huge jackass (even then, he was only getting really jackass when the story is in Jing Province, beforehand, not so much). But, Koei presented him as a pretty decent guy and mostly being the WorthyOpponent here and there. This guy never would let that be, he\\\'s adamant in exposing the bad side of Guan Yu that Koei is downplaying or not touching. Why can\\\'t people enjoy the more \\\'positive\\\' portrayal of Guan Yu that Koei presented? (and for the love of God, stop spewing that novel/history line of Guan Yu in terms of not sending Guan Yinping to marriage with Sun Quan\\\'s son, that doesn\\\'t happen in the game so that can\\\'t even be in YMMV!) This is without telling other things like Cao Pi is actually an utter jackass like he was in history and his record is not as stellar as Cao Cao (when in game, he\\\'s portrayed as JerkWithAHeartOfGold and can be as good as Cao Cao cunning-wise), or Sun Quan slept with \\\'\\\'many\\\'\\\' women (when here, he\\\'s pretty much someone who just settled with one and only Lianshi and kind of {{Adorkable}} at that)... or how about that in history, even without Jia Chong, Sima Zhao is already a tyrannical dude on his own (instead of TheMessiah)? He\\\'s fine with those three presented well, but when Shu is presented well, he\\\'s adamant on showing the not-so-well thing? Come \\\'\\\'on\\\'\\\'.

\\\'People express different opinion\\\' yes, sure. But this is getting like that their opinions are all \\\"Shu, especially Guan Yu, are a bunch of hypocrites and Koei whitewashed them too much, here\\\'s the real thing that happened in history! Now stop gawking at them!\\\"... and to me... that sounds like making Shu as an AcceptableTarget and god forbid that we be sad on bad things that happen to them, or be in awe of their earlier accomplishment or liking their faction in general. As I said, history-buffs is one form of FanDumb that DynastyWarriors franchise often face, especially when the character portrayal occasionally stray from history/novel.

CreatorsPet is also a veery pet-peeve and sensitive trope, kind of like TheScrappy (hell, it used to be called \\\"The Wesley\\\" AKA \\\"Something even worse than TheScrappy\\\"). So I had to take measures. Especially when most of the \\\'complains\\\' is about Shu. It\\\'s like the one who post that seem to have a gigantic hate on Shu that they slap tropes like that on Shu (the Xiahou Dun one? I was the one to add it. The Taishi Ci one...? Inverted! Why do I feel like this editor is just having a big thing on Wu and disliked how he thinks they\\\'re treated in DW? And seriously, I don\\\'t see them being derailed into villains, even with what they did with Guan Yu. But basically, it\\\'s like this guy\\\'s promoting Wu and bash those who are \\\'harming\\\' them.)

And in a way \\\'neutrality\\\' has been kinda implemented here. If we see something like \\\"DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible\\\"... it\\\'s more likely to be removed with \\\"FlameBait\\\" reasoning. I removed that on terms that it could generate gigantic FlameWar, as it\\\'s like a gigantic FlameBait on its own.

Still, thanks for the consideration. Any other replies, you can reply via here or PM.

\\\'People express different opinion\\\' yes, sure. But this is getting like that their opinions are all \\\"Shu, especially Guan Yu, are a bunch of hypocrites and Koei whitewashed them too much, here\\\'s the real thing that happened in history! Now stop gawking at them!\\\"... and to me... that sounds like making Shu as an AcceptableTarget and god forbid that we be sad on bad things that happen to them, or be in awe of their earlier accomplishment or liking their faction in general. As I said, history-buffs is one form of FanDumb that DynastyWarriors franchise often face, especially when the character portrayal occasionally stray from history/novel.

CreatorsPet is also a veery pet-peeve and sensitive trope, kind of like TheScrappy (hell, it used to be called \\\"The Wesley\\\" AKA \\\"Something even worse than TheScrappy\\\"). So I had to take measures. Especially when most of the \\\'complains\\\' is about Shu. It\\\'s like the one who post that seem to have a gigantic hate on Shu that they slap tropes like that on Shu (the Xiahou Dun one? I was the one to add it. The Taishi Ci one...? Inverted! Why do I feel like this editor is just having a big thing on Wu and disliked how he thinks they\\\'re treated in DW? And seriously, I don\\\'t see them being derailed into villains, even with what they did with Guan Yu. But basically, it\\\'s like this guy\\\'s promoting Wu and bash those who are \\\'harming\\\' them.)

And in a way \\\'neutrality\\\' has been kinda implemented here. If we see something like \\\"DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible\\\"... it\\\'s more likely to be removed with \\\"FlameBait\\\" reasoning.

Still, thanks for the consideration. Any other replies, you can reply via here or PM.

\\\'People express different opinion\\\' yes, sure. But this is getting like that their opinions are all \\\"Shu, especially Guan Yu, are a bunch of hypocrites and Koei whitewashed them too much, here\\\'s the real thing that happened in history! Now stop gawking at them!\\\"... and to me... that sounds like making Shu as an AcceptableTarget and god forbid that we be sad on bad things that happen to them, or be in awe of their earlier accomplishment or liking their faction in general.

CreatorsPet is also a veery pet-peeve and sensitive trope, kind of like TheScrappy (hell, it used to be called \\\"The Wesley\\\" AKA \\\"Something even worse than TheScrappy\\\"). So I had to take measures. Especially when most of the \\\'complains\\\' is about Shu. It\\\'s like the one who post that seem to have a gigantic hate on Shu that they slap tropes like that on Shu (the Xiahou Dun one? I was the one to add it. The Taishi Ci one...? Inverted! Why do I feel like this editor is just having a big thing on Wu and disliked how he thinks they\\\'re treated in DW? And seriously, I don\\\'t see them being derailed into villains, even with what they did with Guan Yu. But basically, it\\\'s like this guy\\\'s promoting Wu and bash those who are \\\'harming\\\' them.)

And in a way \\\'neutrality\\\' has been kinda implemented here. If we see something like \\\"DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible\\\"... it\\\'s more likely to be removed with \\\"FlameBait\\\" reasoning.

Still, thanks for the consideration. Any other replies, you can reply via here or PM.

It\\\'s too unfair. ESPECIALLY on Guan Yu. Okay, sure in history or novel, he could be a huge jackass (even then, he was only getting really jackass when the story is in Jing Province, beforehand, not so much). But, Koei presented him as a pretty decent guy and mostly being the WorthyOpponent here and there. This guy never would let that be, he\\\'s adamant in exposing the bad side of Guan Yu that Koei is downplaying or not touching. Why can\\\'t people enjoy the more \\\'positive\\\' portrayal of Guan Yu that Koei presented? (and for the love of God, stop spewing that novel/history line of Guan Yu in terms of not sending Guan Yinping to marriage with Sun Quan\\\'s son, that doesn\\\'t happen in the game so that can\\\'t even be in YMMV!) This is without telling other things like Cao Pi is actually an utter jackass like he was in history and his record is not as stellar as Cao Cao (when in game, he\\\'s portrayed as JerkWithAHeartOfGold and can be as good as Cao Cao cunning-wise), or Sun Quan slept with \\\'\\\'many\\\'\\\' women (when here, he\\\'s pretty much someone who just settled with one and only Lianshi and kind of {{Adorkable}} at that)... or how about that in history, even without Jia Chong, Sima Zhao is already a tyrannical dude on his own (instead of TheMessiah)? He\\\'s fine with those three presented well, but when Shu is presented well, he\\\'s adamant on showing the not-so-well thing? Come \\\'\\\'on\\\'\\\'.