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BlackAndGreyMorality would suggest the Autobot faction as a whole is morally questionable. Optimus makes mistakes and has been criticized for his actions but he does angst over those decisions that don\'t have a clear-cut \
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BlackAndGreyMorality would suggest the Autobot faction as a whole is morally questionable. Optimus makes mistakes and has been criticized for his actions but he does angst over those decisions that don\\\'t have a clear-cut \\\"white/grey/black\\\" answer, as there are repercussions to acts that might be made with the best of intentions.
GreyAndGreyMorality would suggest that the Decepticons have a noble reason for their actions, but once [[MotiveDecay their original cause was made irrelevant]] (the Caste system fell apart almost right before the war began) they no longer had any excuse or justification for their brutality and warmongering. In a contrast to Optimus above, Megatron has no boundaries he is unwilling to cross.
While I agree with the W&G vs. G&B that is more of a footnote in an example-less trope trying to cover all the bases. The only argument I can see \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\' MoralityKitchenSink is that it is not meant for stories that have such clear cut faction affiliations. But I still see it as being the closest approximation given the writing of the show. Especially that before \\\"One Shall Fall\\\" Optimus seemed to have hopes that a peaceful resolution could be made and that it didn\\\'t have to come down to the annihilation of one side. Each character has their own motivations for the cause and aren\\\'t aligned with one side or the other just because.
GreyAndGreyMorality would suggest that the Decepticons have a noble reason for their actions, but once [[MotiveDecay their original cause was made irrelevant]] (the Caste system fell apart almost right before the war began) they no longer had any excuse or justification for their brutality and warmongering. In a contrast to Optimus above, Megatron has no boundaries he is unwilling to cross.
While I agree with the W&G vs. G&B that is more of a footnote in an example-less trope trying to cover all the bases. The only argument I can see \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\' MoralityKitchenSink is that it is not meant for stories that have such clear cut faction affiliations. But I still see it as being the closest approximation given the writing of the show. Especially that before \\\"One Shall Fall\\\" Optimus seemed to have hopes that a peaceful resolution could be made and that it didn\\\'t have to come down to the annihilation of one side. Each character has their own motivations for the cause and aren\\\'t aligned with one side or the other just because.
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I think the only semi-rational argument for BlackAndWhiteMorality is the fact that the Autobots are generally portrayed as the heroes and the Decepticons are generally portrayed as the villains, traditionally works get into good/evil factions use that trope. As stated the fact the Decepticons rose out of rebelling against the unfair caste system means that whatever they are right now they did not originate as CardCarryingVillains.
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I think the only semi-rational argument for BlackAndWhiteMorality is the fact that the Autobots are generally portrayed as the heroes and the Decepticons are generally portrayed as the villains, traditionally works get into good/evil factions use that trope. As stated the fact the Decepticons rose out of rebelling against the unfair caste system means that whatever they are right now they did not originate as {{Card Carrying Villain}}s.
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BlackAndGreyMorality would suggest the Autobot faction as a whole is morally questionable. Optimus makes mistakes and has been criticized for his actions but he does angst over those decisions that don\'t have a clear-cut \
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BlackAndGreyMorality would suggest the Autobot faction as a whole is morally questionable. Optimus makes mistakes and has been criticized for his actions but he does angst over those decisions that don\\\'t have a clear-cut \\\"white/grey/black\\\" answer, as there are repercussions to acts that might be made with the best of intentions.
GreyAndGreyMorality would suggest that the Decepticons have a noble reason for their actions, but once [[MotiveDecay their original cause was made irrelevant]] (the Caste system fell apart almost right before the war began) they no longer had any excuse or justification for their brutality and warmongering. In a contrast to Optimus above, Megatron has no boundaries he is unwilling to cross.
While I agree with the W&G vs. G&B that is more of a footnote in an example-less trope trying to cover all the bases. The only argument I can see \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\' MoralityKitchenSink is that it is not meant for stories that have such clear cut faction affiliations. But I still see it as being the closest approximation given the writing of the show. Especially that before \\\"One Shall Fall\\\" Optimus seemed to have hopes that a peaceful resolution could be made and that it didn\\\'t have to come down to the annihilation of one side.
GreyAndGreyMorality would suggest that the Decepticons have a noble reason for their actions, but once [[MotiveDecay their original cause was made irrelevant]] (the Caste system fell apart almost right before the war began) they no longer had any excuse or justification for their brutality and warmongering. In a contrast to Optimus above, Megatron has no boundaries he is unwilling to cross.
While I agree with the W&G vs. G&B that is more of a footnote in an example-less trope trying to cover all the bases. The only argument I can see \\\'\\\'against\\\'\\\' MoralityKitchenSink is that it is not meant for stories that have such clear cut faction affiliations. But I still see it as being the closest approximation given the writing of the show. Especially that before \\\"One Shall Fall\\\" Optimus seemed to have hopes that a peaceful resolution could be made and that it didn\\\'t have to come down to the annihilation of one side.
