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I sincerely believe that the previous version of the five-man-band page was far superior to the version we view now for several reasons, many of which have been touched on by others on this page. What is written about each archetype in the five man band is extremely specific, and rules our a lot of cast configurations that should be five man bands. If a male character was intended by the writers to be a calming presence in a group of a Leader, Lancer, Big Guy, and Smart guy, how is he not the chick? Order of the stick even lists Elan as it\'s chick, and rightfully so as Haley is a clear pick for the groups Lancer as a rouge and the second in command. Secondly, for this same reason I feel that \
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I sincerely believe that the previous version of the five-man-band page was far superior to the version we view now for several reasons, many of which have been touched on by others on this page. What is written about each archetype in the five man band is extremely specific, and rules our a lot of cast configurations that should be five man bands. If a male character was intended by the writers to be a calming presence in a group of a Leader, Lancer, Big Guy, and Smart guy, how is he not the chick? Order of the stick even lists Elan as it\\\'s chick, and rightfully so as Haley is a clear pick for the groups Lancer because she is a rouge and the second in command. Secondly, for this same reason I feel that \\\"The Hero\\\" is much more fitting than \\\"The Leader.\\\" It is more general; a hero could be present, but the smart guy- for example- could be the one calling the shots. This is not the leader, but is the hero, and may thus fit into a five man band. IE, we COULD consider any leader a hero, but not ever hero a leader. For example, In Star Wars, there is a five man band where Luke is the hero, but Obi-Wan in the one calling the shots as well as the smart guy. The description of the smart guy sounds wrong to me as well, but that isn\\\'t as bad as the other things. It would be better if it focused on the smart aspect of him, just a guy who knows what he\\\'s doing, rather than things that several specific smart guys have in common. Tricksters and Steer connections may be common in law enforcement movie teams, but not in fantasy settings, for example.
Finally, the associated tropes are just confusing. I have no problem with them, they just aren\\\'t explained anywhere. Is the Sneaky Guy supposed to take the place of both Lancer and Smart guy, or is he supposed to be a sixth man?
Finally, the associated tropes are just confusing. I have no problem with them, they just aren\\\'t explained anywhere. Is the Sneaky Guy supposed to take the place of both Lancer and Smart guy, or is he supposed to be a sixth man?
