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[[MadeOfIron B-17 which was capable of surviving up to 200 20 mm rounds]]

Even so a 6% hit rate would actually compare \\\'\\\'favorably\\\'\\\' with aircraft cannon [[ATeamFiring which had only a 2% hit rate]]. The X-4 would also offer advantages like stand-off capability and [[OneHitKIll downing a bomber with one hit]] including the
[[MadeOfIron B-17 which was capable of surviving 200 20 mm round]]

Nobody has used wire guidance for an AAM since the X-4 because obviously more efficient guidance systems have gone down the line. Doesn\\\'t mean the X-4 [[FairForItsDay should be completely written off]]. Anti-tank missiles also need to hit a target directly in order for the HEAT warhead to have effect whereas the X-4 had a Kranich acoustic proximity fuse and only would have needed to go off close enough to its target for the fragmentation warhead to have effect. As I mentioned its intended target would have been much slower four-engined bombers in stationary flight and relatively dense formations. The Germans were aware of the guidance problem but this could have been solved by using planes with a two-man crew - say, the Me 410 bomber destroyer.

Nobody has used wire guidance for an AAM since the X-4 because obviously more efficient guidance systems have gone down the line. Doesn\\\'t mean the X-4 [[FairForItsDay should be completely written off]]. Anti-tank missiles also need to hit a target directly in order for the HEAT warhead to have effect whereas the X4 had a Kranich acoustic proximity fuse and only would have needed to go off close enough to its target for the fragmentation warhead to have effect. As I mentioned its intended target would have been much slower four-engined bombers in stationary flight and relatively dense formations. The Germans were aware of the guidance problem but this could have been solved by using planes with a two-man crew - say, the Me 410 bomber destroyer.

Nobody has used wire guidance for an AAM since the X-4 since obviously more efficient guidance systems have gone down the line. Doesn\\\'t mean the X-4 [[FairForItsDay should be completely written off]]. Anti-tank missiles also need to hit a target directly in order for the HEAT warhead to have effect whereas the X4 had a Kranich acoustic proximity fuse and only would have needed to go off close enough to its target for the fragmentation warhead to have effect. As I mentioned its intended target would have been much slower four-engined bombers in stationary flight and relatively dense formations. The Germans were aware of the guidance problem but this could have been solved by using planes with a two-man crew - say, the Me 410 bomber destroyer.

Currently the real life sections also mentions completely unworkable armoured vehicles like the [[RuleOfCool Maus, the Ratte and the p.1500 Monster]] which were hardly even actually built. Why would it have to be different for aircraft?

The Ta 152 needed more power, armament and better airframe to stay up to date but this doesn\\\'t make it different from any other plane. Compare for example the p-51D with the p-51H or the Spitfire mark IX with the Mark XV.

Currently the real life sections also mentions completely unworkable armoured vehicles like the [[RuleOfCool Maus, the Ratte and the p.1500 Monster]]which were hardly even actually built. Why would it have to be different for aircraft?

The Ho 229 reconstruction was done with help from the Northrop corporation and broadcast on National Geographic, it wasn\\\'t on something like DeadliestWarrior. You also say it crashed due to engine failure not due to aerodynamics.

The Ho 229 reconstruction was done with help from the Northrop corporation and broadcast on National Geographic, it wasn\\\'t on something like DeadliestWarrior. You also say it crashed due to engine failure not due to aerodynamics

Nobody has used wire guidance for an AAM since the X-4 since obviously more efficient guidance systems have gone down the line since. Doesn\\\'t mean the X-4 [[FairForItsDay should be completely written off]]. Anti-tank missiles also need to hit a target directly in order for the HEAT warhead to have effect whereas the X4 had a Kranich acoustic proximity fuse and only would have needed to go off close enough to its target for the fragmentation warhead to have effect. As I mentioned its intended target would have been much slower four-engined bombers in stationary flight and relatively dense formations. The Germans were aware of the guidance problem but this could have been solved by using planes with a two-man crew - say, the Me 410 bomber destroyer.