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And then \'\'Fate/Grand Order\'\' came along. First Koyanskaya claims to be Tamamo Vitch (one of the Tamamo Nine) & Daji, which is revealed to be a lie. Then Daji is stated to have been the Beast of Collapse 3000 years ago and Tamamo Cat (another of the Tamamo Nine) insinuates that Tamamo \'\'is\'\' Daji after all. Then Taigong Wang is revealed to have killed Daji, which doesn\'t mesh with Daji being Tamamo \'\'or\'\' Amaterasu, unless Daji is a separate avatar if Amaterasu -- who is billions of years old.

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And then \\\'\\\'Fate/Grand Order\\\'\\\' came along. First Koyanskaya claims to be Tamamo Vitch (one of the Tamamo Nine) & Daji, which is revealed to be a lie. Then Daji is stated to have been the Beast of Collapse 3000 years ago and Tamamo Cat (another of the Tamamo Nine) outright states that Tamamo \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' Daji and fled to Japan after rampaging across China (twice over) and India. Then Taigong Wang is revealed to have killed Daji, which doesn\\\'t mesh with Daji being Tamamo \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' Amaterasu, unless Daji is a separate avatar if Amaterasu -- who is billions of years old.

[007] Arawn999

14th Feb '23 at 12:12:23 PM

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize. However, it\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying about her innocence since when she was summoned by her malicious previous Master she was unrepentantly evil, she frequently makes allusions that she\'s not as innocent as she claims, and has {{yandere}} tendencies that she refers to as Harlot Mode.

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In her official backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize. However, it\\\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying about her innocence: When she was summoned by her malicious previous Master she was unrepentantly evil, she frequently makes allusions that she\\\'s not as innocent as she claims, and has {{yandere}} tendencies that she refers to as Harlot Mode. It\\\'s also revealed that Tamamo\\\'s official backstory is an UnreliableNarrator:

[006] Arawn999

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\'\'Fate/Extra\'\' plays coy with whether or not Tamamo is Daji, due to her current TheAtoner self being the result of her being summoned by a benevolent Master.

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\\\'\\\'Fate/Extra\\\'\\\' plays coy with whether or not Tamamo is Daji, due to her current Caster self being the result of her being summoned by a benevolent Master like Hakuno Kishinami.

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize. However, it\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her malicious previous Master she was evil, she frequently makes allusions that she\'s not as innocent as she claims, and has {{yandere}} tendencies that she refers to as Harlot Mode.

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize. However, it\\\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying about her innocence since when she was summoned by her malicious previous Master she was unrepentantly evil, she frequently makes allusions that she\\\'s not as innocent as she claims, and has {{yandere}} tendencies that she refers to as Harlot Mode.

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14th Feb '23 at 11:48:30 AM

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And then \'\'Fate/Grand Order\'\' came along. First Koyanskaya claims to be Daji, which is revealed to be a lie. Then Daji is stated to have been the Beast of Collapse 3000 years ago and Tamamo Cat insinuates that Tamamo \'\'is\'\' Daji after all. Then Taigong Wang is revealed to have killed Daji, which doesn\'t mesh with Daji being Tamamo \'\'or\'\' Amaterasu, unless Daji is a separate avatar if Amaterasu -- who is billions of years old.

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And then \\\'\\\'Fate/Grand Order\\\'\\\' came along. First Koyanskaya claims to be Tamamo Vitch (one of the Tamamo Nine) & Daji, which is revealed to be a lie. Then Daji is stated to have been the Beast of Collapse 3000 years ago and Tamamo Cat (another of the Tamamo Nine) insinuates that Tamamo \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' Daji after all. Then Taigong Wang is revealed to have killed Daji, which doesn\\\'t mesh with Daji being Tamamo \\\'\\\'or\\\'\\\' Amaterasu, unless Daji is a separate avatar if Amaterasu -- who is billions of years old.

[004] Arawn999

14th Feb '23 at 11:45:41 AM

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize.

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize. However, it\\\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her malicious previous Master she was evil, she frequently makes allusions that she\\\'s not as innocent as she claims, and has {{yandere}} tendencies that she refers to as Harlot Mode.

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However, it\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her previous Master, Twice, she was evil, and she frequently makes allusions that she\'s not as innocent as she claims. \'\'Fate/Extra CCC\'\' introduces Tamamo\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \'\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\'\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more. In \'\'Fate/Extra CCC\'\', Tamamo regrew all nine of her tails through Taoist sage training, but cut all but one of them off -- creating the Tamamo Nine in the process.

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\\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\' introduces Tamamo\\\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\\\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \\\'\\\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\\\'\\\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\\\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more. In \\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\', Tamamo regrew all nine of her tails through Taoist sage training, but cut all but one of them off -- creating the Tamamo Nine in the process.

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14th Feb '23 at 11:42:55 AM

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However, it\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her previous Master, Twice, she was evil, and she frequently makes allusions that she\'s not as innocent as she claims. \'\'Fate/Extra CCC\'\' introduces Tamamo\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \'\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\'\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more. In \'\'Fate/Extra CCC\'\', Tamamo regrew all nine of her tails through Taoist sage training, but cut them all off -- creating the Tamamo Nine in the process.

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However, it\\\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her previous Master, Twice, she was evil, and she frequently makes allusions that she\\\'s not as innocent as she claims. \\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\' introduces Tamamo\\\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\\\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \\\'\\\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\\\'\\\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\\\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more. In \\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\', Tamamo regrew all nine of her tails through Taoist sage training, but cut all but one of them off -- creating the Tamamo Nine in the process.

[002] Arawn999

14th Feb '23 at 11:40:00 AM

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However, it\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her previous Master, Twice, she was evil, and she frequently makes allusions that she\'s not as innocent as she claims. \'\'Fate/Extra CCC\'\' introduces Tamamo\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \'\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\'\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more.

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However, it\\\'s strongly implied that Tamamo is lying since when she was summoned by her previous Master, Twice, she was evil, and she frequently makes allusions that she\\\'s not as innocent as she claims. \\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\' introduces Tamamo\\\'s original nine-tailed self, the Golden White Face (which is one of Daji\\\'s monikers). Supplementary materials establish that Golden White Face is actually the Shinto goddess Amaterasu, who Tamamo is a \\\'\\\'[[LiteralSplitPersonality bunrei]]\\\'\\\' of, and that Amaterasu had the potential to become a Beast Class entity -- all-but outright stating that Amaterasu is Daji. It\\\'s also stated that if Tamamo regained all nine of her tails she would relapse into evil and become a world-ending calamity once more. In \\\'\\\'Fate/Extra CCC\\\'\\\', Tamamo regrew all nine of her tails through Taoist sage training, but cut them all off -- creating the Tamamo Nine in the process.

[001] Arawn999

14th Feb '23 at 11:36:39 AM

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize.

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In her (self-described) backstory, Tamamo was born as a girl named Mizukume. She fell in love with the retired Emperor Toba, but one day she suddenly sprouted fox-ears and a tail, which she was able to hide for a month. Then Toba fell ill and an onmyoji investigating the cause falsely accused her of being the evil nine-tailed fox-spirit Daji, who had brought ruination to China and India by seducing rulers and driving them insane. Hunted down and reviled for her LittleBitBeastly appearance, she slaughtered an army of soldiers to defend herself but was eventually killed while trying to repent and apologize.

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