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The edit reason given is \\\"while grandma\\\'s line is realistic, the outcome remains \\\"idealistic\\\" (to not say happy) and standard as everyone (except Ercole, who\\\'s a jerk) immediately accepts them and nothing onscreen confirms grandma\\\'s words.\\\"

The trope is defined as \\\"when somebody thought they were protected by the power of narrative convention. Then reality ensued.\\\" In other words, it\\\'s a subversion of expected consequences.

The example points out that \\\"it appears that Pixar has delivered us a happy ending of mutual acceptance\\\" but then surprises us by having Grandma point out that while the initial outcome is happy, letting Luca venture out in the world brings with it real challenges that have not gone away just because acceptance has been found on Portorosso.

The statement \\\"nothing onscreen confirms grandma\\\'s words\\\" is not accurate, in fact the entire story up to this point shows them in action. When the boys first arrive at Portorosso, Luca is shown in justified fear of the village\\\'s hostility toward sea monsters. Luca then manages to find people worth knowing in Giulia and Massimo who have a massive impact on their ultimate acceptance in the town.

SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome is a trope that is often misused and I took pains to point out the narrative convention being set up by the story (ie Pixar\\\'s \\\"happy\\\" ending) and how reality ensues in that there are realistic concerns for Luca\\\'s safety if he ventures beyond Portorosso.
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The edit reason given is \\\"while grandma\\\'s line is realistic, the outcome remains \\\"idealistic\\\" (to not say happy) and standard as everyone (except Ercole, who\\\'s a jerk) immediately accepts them and nothing onscreen confirms grandma\\\'s words.\\\"

The trope is defined as \\\"when somebody thought they were protected by the power of narrative convention. Then reality ensued.\\\" In other words, it\\\'s a subversion of expected consequences.

The example points out that \\\"it appears that Pixar has delivered us a happy ending of mutual acceptance\\\" but then surprises us by having Grandma point out that while the initial outcome is happy, letting Luca venture out in the world brings with it real challenges that have not gone away just because acceptance has been found on Portorosso.

The statement \\\"nothing onscreen confirms grandma\\\'s words\\\" is not accurate, in fact the entire story up to this point shows them in action. When the boys first arrive at Portorosso, Luca is shown in justified fear of the village\\\'s hostility toward sea monsters. Luca then manages to find people worth knowing in Giulia and Massimo who have a massive impact on their ultimate acceptance in the town.
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