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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not repeating Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\'s mistakes that blinds himself to the new mistakes his own fear is creating, such as his perception of Salem\'s inhumanity making him strip away his own to become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, exacerbating his tyrannical decision-making into exposing the secret location of the Winter Maiden and enabling the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear that humane decisions benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge his fears and embrace his humanity, Professor Ozpin\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not repeating Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\\\'s mistakes that he blinds himself to the new mistakes his own fear is creating, such as his perception of Salem\\\'s inhumanity making him strip away his own to become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\\\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\\\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, exacerbating his tyrannical decision-making into exposing the secret location of the Winter Maiden and enabling the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\\\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear that humane decisions benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\\\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\\\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge his fears and embrace his humanity, Professor Ozpin\\\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not making either Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\'s mistakes that he is completely blind to his own fear and how that fear is creating new mistakes the other headmasters didn\'t make, such as his perception of Salem\'s inhuamnity making him strip away his own humanity to become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, causing him to make rash, tyrannical decisions that expose both the secret location of the Winter Maiden and the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear of making decisions that benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge his fears and embrace his humanity, Professor Ozpin\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not repeating Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\\\'s mistakes that blinds himself to the new mistakes his own fear is creating, such as his perception of Salem\\\'s inhumanity making him strip away his own to become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\\\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\\\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, exacerbating his tyrannical decision-making into exposing the secret location of the Winter Maiden and enabling the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\\\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear that humane decisions benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\\\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\\\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge his fears and embrace his humanity, Professor Ozpin\\\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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This can probably be written much better, but it\'s just an example right now.
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This can probably be written much better (and shorter), but it\\\'s just an example right now.
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That said, how might GeneralFailure apply to Ironwood? Clearly, he has a reputational history for competence and ability. So, he was not promoted beyond his ability \'\'in the first place\'\'. What has happened, what has become increasingly clear to the characters, is that Ironwood does not have the ability to manage and lead against a threat of Salem\'s specific type. So, he\'s not a GeneralFailure because he\'s been promoted to the rank of general above his ability. He is a GeneralFailure because he is the wrong man to lead the resistence against Salem. And a big part of why is because he\'s in capable of embracing his own fear, instead handling it by becoming increasingly dictatorial and controlling, which causes everything to spiral out of his control.
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To make the trope apply to Ironwood, we have to look at it differently. Clearly, he has a reputational history for competence and ability. So, he was not promoted \\\'\\\'to general\\\'\\\' beyond his ability. What has happened, what has become increasingly clear to the characters, is that Ironwood does not have the ability to lead the fight against Salem. So, he\\\'s not a GeneralFailure because he\\\'s been promoted to the rank of general above his ability. He is a GeneralFailure because he has been promoted to the position of BigGood, and that is very far beyond his ability to handle. The big reason why is because he\\\'s incapable of embracing his own fear, instead becoming increasingly dictatorial and controlling, which causes everything to spiral out of his control and make him even more afraid.
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So, the entry is basically going to be connected to the entry on his page that is about his deconstruction of the BigGood trope (see the BigGood entry on his character sheet). Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem. Ironwood didn\'t like Ozpin\'s methods and thought he could do a better job. He put himself in charge of the fight against Salem, and everyone else enabled that by assuming the same, but his obsession with physical solution, physical might, in combination with his FatalFlaw leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem. He was completely ill-suited to leading the fight against Salem because he can\'t even cope with dealing with her.
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In other words, the entry is going to be based around his BigGood entry, for which he\\\'s a deconstruction. Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem, but Ironwood didn\\\'t like his methods and thought he could do a better job. Once he\\\'s in charge, everyone gets to see that he\\\'s terrible at it: his obsession with physicality, military strength, and his fear of Salem\\\'s inhumanity leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem. He was completely ill-suited to leading the fight against Salem because he can\\\'t even cope with dealing with her.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not making either Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\'s mistakes that he is completely blind to his own fear and how that fear is creating new mistakes the other headmasters didn\'t make, such as becoming increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, causing him to make rash, tyrannical decisions that expose both the secret location of the Winter Maiden and the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear of making decisions that benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge and embrace his fears, Professor Ozpin\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not making either Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\\\'s mistakes that he is completely blind to his own fear and how that fear is creating new mistakes the other headmasters didn\\\'t make, such as his perception of Salem\\\'s inhuamnity making him strip away his own humanity to become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\\\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\\\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, causing him to make rash, tyrannical decisions that expose both the secret location of the Winter Maiden and the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\\\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear of making decisions that benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\\\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\\\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge his fears and embrace his humanity, Professor Ozpin\\\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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The trope isn\'t for a general who happens to have some plans that do fail. And it\'s not a trope for a general who falls victim to a deliberate villainous strategy that successfully pulls off a BatmanGambit against a specific weak point of the general (in this case, against his FatalFlaw, which is his PTSD-driven paranoia).
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The trope isn\\\'t for a general who happens to have some plans that do fail. And it\\\'s not a trope for a general who falls victim to a deliberate villainous strategy that successfully pulls off a BatmanGambit against a specific weak point of the general. The trope is for a general who cannot succeed because he doesn\\\'t have the ability to succeed. Any entry that is therefore focussed any actions by Ironwood that have been caused by villains engaging in successful strategies against them isn\\\'t this trope -- he\\\'s simply been out-strategised and out-gambitted.
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The trope is for a general who cannot succeed because he doesn\'t have the ability to succeed. Any entry that is therefore focussed any actions by Ironwood that have been caused by villains engaging in successful strategies against them isn\'t this trope -- he\'s simply been out-strategised and out-gambitted.
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Now, how might GeneralFailure apply to Ironwood? Clearly, he has a reputational history for competence and ability. So, he was not promoted beyond his ability \'\'in the first place\'\'. What has happened, what has become increasingly clear to the characters, is that Ironwood does not have the ability to manage and lead against a threat of Salem\'s specific type. So, he\'s not a GeneralFailure because he\'s been promoted to the rank of general above his ability. He is a GeneralFailure because he is the wrong man to lead the resistence against Salem.
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That said, how might GeneralFailure apply to Ironwood? Clearly, he has a reputational history for competence and ability. So, he was not promoted beyond his ability \\\'\\\'in the first place\\\'\\\'. What has happened, what has become increasingly clear to the characters, is that Ironwood does not have the ability to manage and lead against a threat of Salem\\\'s specific type. So, he\\\'s not a GeneralFailure because he\\\'s been promoted to the rank of general above his ability. He is a GeneralFailure because he is the wrong man to lead the resistence against Salem. And a big part of why is because he\\\'s in capable of embracing his own fear, instead handling it by becoming increasingly dictatorial and controlling, which causes everything to spiral out of his control.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so determined not to make either Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\'s mistakes, that he locks himself into finding physical solutions that become increasingly aggressive and dictatorial as Salem\'s threat increases. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder exploits his PTSD to trigger him into making a series of rash, tyrannical decisions that expose the secret location of the Winter Maiden and enable the Relic of Knowledge to be left unprotected enough to steal. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear of making decisions that benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his response to being unable to cope with Salem\'s threat is to become a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. Professor Ozpin\'s true successor, [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]], ends up telling Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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* GeneralFailure: Initially a general with a solid reputation, Ironwood becomes the [[BigGood de facto leader]] of the fight against [[BigBad Salem]] after [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] and Beacon Academy fall. He is so obsessed with not making either Ozpin or Professor Lionheart\\\'s mistakes that he is completely blind to his own fear and how that fear is creating new mistakes the other headmasters didn\\\'t make, such as becoming increasingly aggressive and dictatorial towards his kingdom\\\'s people. Watts and Tyrian exploit his increasingly worsening reputation to divide Mantle and Atlas, while Cinder leaving Salem\\\'s CallingCard in his office triggers his PTSD, causing him to make rash, tyrannical decisions that expose both the secret location of the Winter Maiden and the Relic of Knowledge to being stolen. His grand plan to unite Remnant via Amity Tower falls apart, his obsession with finding Watts and Tyrian enables Salem\\\'s army to arrive at his doorstep without warning, and his fear of making decisions that benefit Salem leads him to turn against his own allies and abandon Mantle\\\'s people. Instead of being Remnant\\\'s leader in the fight against Salem, his fear of Salem reduces him to a tyrannical ControlFreak who shoots his own allies for challenging decisions that bring his kingdom to the brink of destruction. After failing to get Ironwood to acknowledge and embrace his fears, Professor Ozpin\\\'s true successor [[LegacyOfTheChosen Oscar]] informs Ironwood that he is now as dangerous as Salem.
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So, the entry is basically going to be connected to the entry on his page that is about his deconstruction of the BigGood trope (see the BigGood entry on his character sheet). Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem. Ironwood didn\'t like Ozpin\'s methods and thought he could do a better job. He put himself in charge of the fight against Salem, and everyone else enabled that by assuming the same, but his obsession with physical solution, physical might, in combination with his FatalFlaw leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem. He was completely ill-suited to leading the fight against Salem because he can\'t even cope with dealing with her. That is the GeneralFailure entry for Ironwood -- it\'s his usurping of the BigGood role that is the \'promotion beyond his abilities\' that meets the requirement of the trope. You\'re looking at an entry that\'s something along these lines (yes, it does overlap in places with the previous entry but the context entry, which is what shows how the trope is being used, is completely different):
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So, the entry is basically going to be connected to the entry on his page that is about his deconstruction of the BigGood trope (see the BigGood entry on his character sheet). Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem. Ironwood didn\\\'t like Ozpin\\\'s methods and thought he could do a better job. He put himself in charge of the fight against Salem, and everyone else enabled that by assuming the same, but his obsession with physical solution, physical might, in combination with his FatalFlaw leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem. He was completely ill-suited to leading the fight against Salem because he can\\\'t even cope with dealing with her.
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That is the GeneralFailure entry for Ironwood -- it\\\'s his usurping of the BigGood role that is the \\\'promotion beyond his abilities\\\' that meets the requirement of the trope. You\\\'re looking at an entry that\\\'s something along these lines (yes, it does overlap in places with the previous entry but the context entry, which is what shows how the trope is being used, is completely different):
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So the entry is basically going to be connected to the entry on his page that is about his deconstruction of the BigGood trope (see the BigGood entry on his character sheet). Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem. Ironwood didn\'t like Ozpin\'s methods and thought he could do a better job. He put himself in charge of the fight against Salem, and everyone else enabled that by assuming the same, but his obsession with physical solution, physical might, in combination with his FatalFlaw leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem.
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So, the entry is basically going to be connected to the entry on his page that is about his deconstruction of the BigGood trope (see the BigGood entry on his character sheet). Ozpin was the leader of the fight against Salem. Ironwood didn\\\'t like Ozpin\\\'s methods and thought he could do a better job. He put himself in charge of the fight against Salem, and everyone else enabled that by assuming the same, but his obsession with physical solution, physical might, in combination with his FatalFlaw leads him to become, as Oscar pointed out, just another Salem. He was completely ill-suited to leading the fight against Salem because he can\\\'t even cope with dealing with her. That is the GeneralFailure entry for Ironwood -- it\\\'s his usurping of the BigGood role that is the \\\'promotion beyond his abilities\\\' that meets the requirement of the trope. You\\\'re looking at an entry that\\\'s something along these lines (yes, it does overlap in places with the previous entry but the context entry, which is what shows how the trope is being used, is completely different):
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\'\'That\'\' is the GeneralFailure entry for Ironwood -- it\'s his usurping of the BigGood role that is the \'promotion beyond his abilities\' that meets the requirement of the trope. You\'re looking at an entry that\'s something along these lines (yes, it does overlap in places with the previous entry but the context entry, which is what shows how the trope is being used, is completely different):
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This can probably be written much better, but it\\\'s just an example right now.
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