Discussion History Main / DraconicAbomination

You say Typhon, Tiamat, Níðhöggr, and Scylla don\\\'t overlap with EldritchAbomination, but all of them are listed on EldritchAbomination/MythologyAndReligion... which, admittedly, could use some touching up. But the point remains that people thought they qualified as eldritch entities (and given that they\\\'re a god of chaos with thousands of draconic heads, depending on the depiction; a primordial goddess of chaos and mother of both the gods and monsters; and colossal extradimensional dragon that eats the roots of a cosmic tree and occasionally snacks on damned souls respectively, I can see it) and no-one bothered to remove them. I suppose Scylla isn\\\'t exactly draconic, though, so she doesn\\\'t meet the qualifications for this trope.

The only archetypical dragons I can find here are Bahamut (an EldritchAbomination in the shape of a dragon) and the examples from \\\'\\\'Magic the Gathering\\\'\\\'. I can see the Moltensteel and Volcanic Dragons not counting as Eldritch Abominations in dragon form, but the Ur-Dragon is a primordial entity from which all dragons are descended - or at least that was how it was described when it was suggested by someone during the TLP stage, and no-one vetoed it then.

I guess you\\\'d argue that DragonsAreDivine and DragonsAreDemonic should also be folded into OurDragonsAreDifferent; and AngelicAbomination into OurAngelsAreDifferent, then?

I guess you\\\'d argue that DragonsAreDivine and DragonsAreDemonic should also be folded into OurDragonsAreDifferent, then?

You say Typhon, Tiamat, Níðhöggr, and Scylla don\\\'t overlap with EldritchAbomination, but all of them are listed on EldritchAbomination/MythologyAndReligion... which, admittedly, could use some touching up. But the point remains that people thought they qualified as eldritch entities (god of chaos with thousands of draconic heads, depending on the depiction; primordial goddess of chaos and mother of both the gods and monsters; colossal extradimensional dragon that eats the roots of a cosmic tree and occasionally snacks on damned souls) and no-one bothered to remove them. I suppose Scylla isn\\\'t exactly draconic, though, so she doesn\\\'t meet the qualifications for this trope.

The only archetypical dragons I can find here are Bahamut (an EldritchAbomination in the shape of a dragon) and the examples from \\\'\\\'Magic the Gathering\\\'\\\'. I can see the Moltensteel and Volcanic Dragons not counting as Eldrtich Abominations in dragon form, but the Ur-Dragon is a primordial entity from which all dragons are descended - or at least that was how it was described when it was suggested by someone during the TLP stage, and no-one vetoed it then.

Megatron in \\\'\\\'Beast Machines\\\'\\\' really doesn\\\'t count as an example, but the other examples were discussed and vetted during the TLP stage.

I guess you\\\'d argue that DragonsAreDivine and DragonsAreDemonic should also be folded into OurDragonsAreDifferent, then? For that matter, if DraconicAbomination is under fire for being \\\"pretty redundant by definition\\\", isn\\\'t DragonsAreDemonic also redundant since the overwhelming majority of dragons in western civilization are evil demonic creatures, and subversions to that have only appeared relatively recently?

I guess you\\\'d argue that DragonsAreDivine and DragonsAreDemonic should also be folded into OurDragonsAreDifferent, then? For that matter, if DraconicAbomination is under fire because most dragons are to some extent or another things that can\\\'t exist under the laws of reality... so are all monsters, really.