So, why exactly does this need to be a trope? How is this any different from Our Dragons Are Different? With Humanoid Abomination and Animalistic Abomination it makes sense, since humans and animals are both real things that have a measurable base to work from. Dragons, on the other hand, can be anything you want them to be. Prettymuch any dragon in anything ever could be reasoned to fit in with this trope, which makes it pretty redundant by definition.
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Couldn't the same argument be made for Undead Abomination and Our Zombies Are Different or Non-Human Undead?
There are depictions where dragons are just another type of animal or monster capable of being slain by mortals without some kind of superpowers or divine aid - which is not this trope. And there are depictions where dragons are otherworldly entities, or in which otherworldly entities appear as dragons.
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That's my point. Our Dragons Are Different. This is just "Our dragons are slightly more different," only most of the examples are actually incredibly tame, and even archetypal? Typhon? Nidhogg? Scylla? Godzilla? Those guys and gals don't even overlap with Eldritch Abomination. This trope is "Dragons but marginally weirder", only "marginally weirder" is already covered under ODAD.
Undead Abomination is a likewise nebulous and fairly nonsensical trope, and really should also be worked on. But at least you can divvy 'undead' up into slightly more solid categories than dragons, IE: Animated corpses, disembodied souls, blood-suckers, etc. It could be a "undead that don't fit into those categories" trope. But it looks like the examples there are anything from masses of bodies mushed together to death gods to Eldritch Abominations who are kinda gothy?
I guess you'd argue that Dragons Are Divine and Dragons Are Demonic should also be folded into Our Dragons Are Different; and Angelic Abomination into Our Angels Are Different, then?
You say Typhon, Tiamat, Níðhöggr, and Scylla don't overlap with Eldritch Abomination, but all of them are listed on Mythology & Religion... which, admittedly, could use some touching up. But the point remains that people thought they qualified as eldritch entities (and given that they're a god of chaos with thousands of draconic heads, depending on the depiction; a primordial goddess of chaos and mother of both the gods and monsters; and colossal extradimensional dragon that eats the roots of a cosmic tree and occasionally snacks on damned souls respectively, I can see it) and no-one bothered to remove them. I suppose Scylla isn't exactly draconic, though, so she doesn't meet the qualifications for this trope.
The only archetypical dragons I can find here are Bahamut (an Eldritch Abomination in the shape of a dragon) and the examples from Magic the Gathering. I can see the Moltensteel and Volcanic Dragons not counting as Eldritch Abominations in dragon form, but the Ur-Dragon is a primordial entity from which all dragons are descended - or at least that was how it was described when it was suggested by someone during the TLP stage, and no-one vetoed it then.
Megatron in Beast Machines really doesn't count as an example, but the other examples were discussed and vetted during the TLP stage.
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Y'know, now that you mention it, I would argue that! Let's clean up those pages too.
Oh no. What have I done?!
In any case, I removed Megatron and some of the other unfitting examples, and commented out the Moltensteel and Volcanic Dragons pending removal.
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How is Nergigante an example? If anything it's less otherworldly than the other dragons.
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