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I want to argue against the reason the InternetBackdraft trope was re-added using [[https://twitter.com/seclusiveblue/status/1003564124599660544?s=21 these screenshots]].
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I want to argue against the reason the InternetBackdraft trope was re-added using [[https://twitter.com/DishonouredWolf/status/1003587943884304385 these screenshots]].
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I want to argue against the reason the InternetBackdraft trope was re-added using [https://twitter.com/seclusiveblue/status/1003564124599660544?s=21 these screenshots]].
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I want to argue against the reason the InternetBackdraft trope was re-added using [[https://twitter.com/seclusiveblue/status/1003564124599660544?s=21 these screenshots]].
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But that's not whitewashing. Hydra started out as a completely generic bad guy troupe. They did not start out as Nazis. The MCU had them start out as Nazis, that's where that idea comes from.
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But that\'s not whitewashing. Hydra started out as a completely generic bad guy troupe. They did not start out as Nazis. The MCU had them start out as Nazis, that\'s where that idea comes from.
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And Marvel tries to make clear that they aren't Nazis to be able to portray a more generic kind of evil, oppressive, totalitarian, fascist group that isn't tied to very specific elements - not to make Hydra look better, which is very obvious when you read Secret Empire, but to be able to do a story about how tempting it is to choose a path that promises security and ends up with everyone in chains. As you point out, they have no qualms to ally with Nazis, with white supremacists, with dictators - but it's a lot easier to show great parts of the population fall into line with them, even show heroes fall into line with them, when they are not obviously the No. 1 go to Evil Guys in pop culture. And that's why Spencer and Alonso kept saying they aren't Nazis - not to make Hydra look cooler or appear more palable, but to be able to portray evil with a less than obvious face.
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And Marvel tries to make clear that they aren\'t Nazis to be able to portray a more generic kind of evil, oppressive, totalitarian, fascist group that isn\'t tied to very specific elements - not to make Hydra look better, which is very obvious when you read Secret Empire, but to be able to do a story about how tempting it is to choose a path that promises security and ends up with everyone in chains. As you point out, they have no qualms to ally with Nazis, with white supremacists, with dictators - but it\'s a lot easier to show great parts of the population fall into line with them, even show heroes fall into line with them, when they are not obviously the No. 1 go to Evil Guys in pop culture. And that\'s why Spencer and Alonso kept saying they aren\'t Nazis - not to make Hydra look cooler or appear more palable, but to be able to portray evil with a less than obvious face.
You could always still say that people disagree about the result - I mean, we disagree, obviously. But calling it whitewashing is really misunderstanding what they were trying to do here.
You could always still say that people disagree about the result - I mean, we disagree, obviously. But calling it whitewashing is really misunderstanding what they were trying to do here.
