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[005] SkidTroper

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1) Thank you for being civil throughout this discussion. I understand what you're getting at; I'm not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn't be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism, though I oppose communism. I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I'd say so. I was saying that if the (to me, comparatively trivial and overemphasized) controversy over Cora's hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it's unlikely they'd be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn't always a feasible option (again I'm speaking hypothetically).

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1) Thank you for being civil throughout this discussion. I understand what you\'re getting at; I\'m not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn\'t be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism, though I oppose communism. I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I\'d say so. I was saying that if the (to me, comparatively trivial and overemphasized) controversy over Cora\'s hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it\'s unlikely they\'d be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn\'t always a feasible option (again I\'m speaking hypothetically).

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as \"Nazi\" or \"fascist\", which is also treading towards the Loaded Question Fallacy; that white nationalism accusation falls flat as they didn\'t know my national or ethnic background and as explained earlier Christianity is *not* a white religion, despite what some people think). Whether a privileged group is marginalized and the public perception of Christianity is not something I\'ll discuss here due to it being off-topic (I have gotten glimpses of it, and been on the receiving end of it being a Christian myself; To clarify what I previously said in this discussion, I always meant that every religion has been discriminated against and ridiculed at some point when I said \"marginalized\". I was wrong to use the word *marginalized* as I meant \"being discriminated against and ridiculed.\" I say that\'s happening to some religions more than others and I\'ll leave it at that) .

In closing, I say we agree to disagree about the trope and public views, that we don\'t need Bioware or EA to outright state whether or not they had any ulterior motive with the kett before adding such an entry to the page, and I will leave the point off for now unless the criteria you mentioned \"If people really, really want that entry, and it comes back up\" is met. How does that sound?

[004] SkidTroper

10th May '17 at 08:49:57 AM

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1) I understand ; I'm not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn't be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I'd say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora's hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it's unlikely they'd be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn't always a feasible option (again I'm speaking hypothetically).

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1) Thank you for being civil throughout this discussion. I understand what you\'re getting at; I\'m not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn\'t be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism, though I oppose communism. I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I\'d say so. I was saying that if the (to me, comparatively trivial and overemphasized) controversy over Cora\'s hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it\'s unlikely they\'d be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn\'t always a feasible option (again I\'m speaking hypothetically).

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as

to:

2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as \"Nazi\" or \"fascist\", which is also treading towards the Loaded Question Fallacy; that white nationalism accusation falls flat as they didn\'t know my national or ethnic background and as explained earlier Christianity is *not* a white religion, despite what some people think). Whether a privileged group is marginalized and the public perception of Christianity (which I have gotten glimpses of, and been on the receiving end of being a Christian myself; To clarify what I previously said in this discussion, I always meant that every religion has been discriminated against and ridiculed at some point when I said \"marginalized\". I was wrong to use the word *marginalized* as I meant \"being discriminated against and ridiculed.\" I say that\'s happening to some religions more than others, but I\'ll end that line of thought there) is not something I\'ll discuss here due to it being off-topic.

In closing, I say we agree to disagree about the trope and public views, that we don\'t need Bioware or EA to outright state whether or not they had any ulterior motive with the kett before adding such an entry to the page, and I will leave the point off for now unless the criteria you mentioned \"If people really, really want that entry, and it comes back up\" is met. How does that sound?

[003] SkidTroper

10th May '17 at 08:47:00 AM

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1) I understand ; I'm not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn't be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I'd say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora's hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it's unlikely they'd be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn't always a feasible option (again I'm speaking hypothetically).

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1) I understand ; I\'m not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn\'t be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I\'d say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora\'s hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it\'s unlikely they\'d be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn\'t always a feasible option (again I\'m speaking hypothetically).

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as

to:

2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as \"Nazi\" or \"fascist\", which is also treading towards the Loaded Question Fallacy; that white nationalism accusation falls flat as they didn\'t know my national or ethnic background and as explained earlier Christianity is *not* a white religion, despite what some people think). Whether a privileged group is marginalized and the public perception of Christianity (which I have gotten glimpses of, and been on the receiving end of being a Christian myself; To clarify what I previously said in this discussion, I always meant that every religion has been discriminated against and ridiculed at some point when I said \"marginalized\". I was wrong to use the word *marginalized* as I meant \"being discriminated against and ridiculed.\" I say that\'s happening to some religions more than others, but I\'ll end that line of thought there) is not something I\'ll discuss here due to it being off-topic and let\'s just say I have my suspicions about a certain few people on this site (besides yourself, as I think you\'ve been civil).

In closing, I say we agree to disagree about the trope and public views, that we don\'t need Bioware or EA to outright state whether or not they had any ulterior motive with the kett before adding such an entry to the page, and I will leave the point off for now unless the criteria you mentioned \"If people really, really want that entry, and it comes back up\" is met. How does that sound?

[002] SkidTroper

10th May '17 at 08:36:33 AM

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1) I understand ; I'm not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn't be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I'd say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora's hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it's unlikely they'd be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn't always a feasible option (again I'm speaking hypothetically).

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1) I understand ; I\'m not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn\'t be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I\'d say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora\'s hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it\'s unlikely they\'d be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn\'t always a feasible option (again I\'m speaking hypothetically).

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as

to:

2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as \"Nazi\" or \"fascist\", which is also treading towards the Loaded Question Fallacy; that white nationalism accusation falls flat as they didn\'t know my national or ethnic background and as explained earlier Christianity is *not* a white religion, despite what some people think). Whether a privileged group is marginalized and the public perception of Christianity (which I have gotten glimpses of, and been on the receiving end of being a Christian myself) is not something I\'ll discuss here due to it being off-topic and let\'s just say I have my suspicions about a certain few people on this site (besides yourself; that last part wasn\'t directed at you).

In closing, I say we agree to disagree about the trope and public views, that we don\'t need Bioware or EA to outright state whether or not they had any ulterior motive with the kett before adding such an entry to the page, and I will leave the point off for now unless the criteria you mentioned \"If people really, really want that entry, and it comes back up\" is met. How does that sound?

[001] SkidTroper

10th May '17 at 08:31:04 AM

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1) I understand ; I'm not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn't be using the Applicability trope. I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I'd say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora's hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it's unlikely they'd be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn't always a feasible option (again I'm speaking hypothetically).

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1) I understand ; I\'m not saying that the devs were just trying to bash Christianity, otherwise I wouldn\'t be using the Applicability trope. I acknowledged that it could also be a jab at communism (though I oppose communism). I did wonder about their specific use of Christianity vs other religions but we discussed that. I was voicing my suspicions, not making accusations; if I wanted to make accusations I\'d say so. I am saying that if the controversy over Cora\'s hair was allowed here, I think the more visible aspects of the kett could be addressed. As stated before *IF* any publisher of content (to use this *hypothetical* example, Bioware and/or EA) had a malicious ulterior motive, it\'s unlikely they\'d be upfront about it, so waiting for them to confirm or deny it isn\'t always a feasible option (again I\'m speaking hypothetically).

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2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as

to:

2) Those other people assuming I was white nationalist when I said that a group considered privileged by some/many is discriminated against were mistaken. There is a growing trend of people of certain views using such accusations as a blanket statement to silence discussions they dislike or disagree with (along with accusations such as \"Nazi\" or \"fascist\", which is also treading towards the Loaded Question Fallacy; that white nationalism accusation falls flat as they didn\'t know my national or ethnic background and as explained earlier Christianity is *not* a white religion, despite what some people think). Whether a privileged group is marginalized and the public perception of Christianity (which I have gotten glimpses of, and been on the receiving end of being a Christian myself) is not something I\'ll discuss here due to it being off-topic and let\'s just say I have my suspicions about a certain few people on this site (besides yourself).

In closing, I say we agree to disagree about the trope and public views, and that we don\'t need Bioware or EA to outright state whether or not they had any ulterior motive with the kett before adding such an entry to the page, and I will leave the point off for now unless the criteria you mentioned \"If people really, really want that entry, and it comes back up\" is met. How does that sound?

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