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Toomes is a \'\'\'\'\'VERY\'\'\'\'\' JustifiedCriminal. Doesn\'t mean he\'s not one, but \'\'damn\'\' if he wasn\'t pushed far beyond the breaking point.
* Tony Stark destroyed his life when he stole a contract he had put all his finances into. He just wants to support his own family and the fact that Tony and the government took away his chances to do it legally doesn\'t make it unbelievable. It also helps Peter [[spoiler:turn down the offer of becoming an Avenger, preferring to help the little guy instead]]. Stark \'\'never\'\' thinks about unintended consequences QED \'\'[[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron Ultron]].\'\'
* The Tinker - a MacGyvering working-class engineer, not an MIT graduate like Stark or a prodigy like Parker - has successfully turned the ImportedAlienPhlebotinum they\'ve stolen into revolutionary devices that could be [[CutLexLuthorACheck put to peaceful and productive purposes]], but there is [[ReedRichardsIsUseless no legal market for it]] because \"The Department of Damage Control\" does \'\'[[MisappliedPhlebotinum nothing]]\'\' with that salvage, instead piling it in a SecretGovernmentWarehouse. In the aftermath of an AlienInvasion that Stark created Ultron to prevent repeats of. Imagine handing an F-16 to the Aztecs in 1521, when Cortez UsefulNotes/HernanCortez was at war with them, and instead of learning to \'\'fly\'\' so they could slice Cortez and his army to shreds, they cut off the \'\'wings\'\' to use as \'\'shields\'\', the \'\'guns\'\' as \'\'clubs\'\', and they take off the \'\'wheels\'\' because they figured they would look really cool \'\'hanging from the temple ceiling!\'\'

Toomes is a \'\'\'\'\'VERY\'\'\'\'\' JustifiedCriminal. Doesn\'t mean he\'s not one, but \'\'damn\'\' if he wasn\'t pushed far beyond the breaking point.
* Tony Stark destroyed his life when he stole a contract he had put all his finances into. He just wants to support his own family and the fact that Tony and the government took away his chances to do it legally doesn\'t make it unbelievable. It also helps Peter [[spoiler:turn down the offer of becoming an Avenger, preferring to help the little guy instead]]. Stark \'\'never\'\' thinks about unintended consequences QED \'\'[[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron Ultron]].\'\'
* The Tinker - a MacGyvering working-class engineer, not an MIT graduate like Stark or a prodigy like Parker - has successfully turned the ImportedAlienPhlebotinum they\'ve stolen into revolutionary devices that could be [[CutLexLuthorACheck put to peaceful and productive purposes]], but there is [[ReedRichardsIsUseless no legal market for it]] because \"The Department of Damage Control\" does \'\'[[MisappliedPhlebotinum nothing]]\'\' with that salvage, instead piling it in a SecretGovernmentWarehouse. Imagine handing an F-16 to the Aztecs in 1521, when Cortez was at war with them, and instead of learning to \'\'fly\'\' so they could slice Cortez and his army to shreds, they cut off the \'\'wings\'\' to use as \'\'shields\'\', the \'\'guns\'\' as \'\'clubs\'\', and they take off the \'\'wheels\'\' because they figured they would look really cool \'\'hanging from the temple ceiling!\'\'

Toomes is a \'\'\'\'\'VERY\'\'\'\'\' JustifiedCriminal. Doesn\'t mean he\'s not one, but \'\'damn\'\' if he wasn\'t pushed far beyond the breaking point.
* Tony Stark destroyed his life when he stole a contract he had put his own small fortune into. He just wants to support his own family and the fact that Tony and the government took away his chances to do it legally doesn\'t make it unbelievable. It also helps Peter [[spoiler:turn down the offer of becoming an Avenger, preferring to help the little guy instead]]. Stark \'\'never\'\' thinks about unintended consequences QED \'\'[[Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron Ultron]].\'\'
* The Tinker - a MacGyvering working-class engineer, not an MIT graduate like Stark or a prodigy like Parker - has successfully turned the ImportedAlienPhlebotinum they\'ve stolen into revolutionary devices that could be [[CutLexLuthorACheck put to peaceful and productive purposes]], but there is [[ReedRichardsIsUseless no legal market for it]] because \"The Department of Damage Control\" does \'\'[[MisappliedPhlebotinum nothing]]\'\' with that salvage, instead piling it in a SecretGovernmentWarehouse. Imagine handing an F-16 to the Aztecs in 1521, when Cortez was at war with them, and instead of learning to \'\'fly\'\' so they could slice Cortez and his army to shreds, they cut off the \'\'wings\'\' to use as \'\'shields\'\', the \'\'guns\'\' as \'\'clubs\'\', and they take off the \'\'wheels\'\' because they figured they would look really cool \'\'hanging from the temple ceiling!\'\'