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[005] MithrandirOlorin Current Version

4th Jan '17 at 07:46:35 AM

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This kinda repeats my earlier comment. But I've been thinking more about how media from Japan is often the most blatant with this Trope, and how a Language issue could be at the root. Particularly in how Hime is sued as an honorific.

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This kinda repeats my earlier comment. But I\'ve been thinking more about how media from Japan is often the most blatant with this Trope, and how a Language issue could be at the root. Particularly in how Hime is used as an honorific.

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Take the currently airing Anime, Izetta the Last Witch. In both the English Dub and official Subs Fine's title changes from Princess to Arch-Duchess after her father dies and she has her Coronation. Yet it's been observed that in the Japanese Audio what she's called hasn't changed, she's still Fine-Hime.

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Take the currently airing Anime, Izetta the Last Witch. In both the English Dub and official Subs, Fine\'s title changes from Princess to Arch-Duchess after her father dies and she has her Coronation. Yet it\'s been observed that in the Japanese Audio what she\'s called hasn\'t changed, she\'s still Fine-Hime.

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Of course I also wonder how much Star Wars might have caused the modern examples of this while not doing it itself. Leia isn't a head of state, but one could easily have been forgiven for thinking she was, especially if they viewed Star Wars through a Language barrier. We know Final Fantasy was heavily Star Wars influenced, and does this Trope.

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Of course I also wonder how much Star Wars might have caused the modern examples of this while not doing it itself. Leia isn\'t a head of state, but one could easily have been forgiven for thinking she was, especially if they viewed Star Wars through a Language barrier. We know Final Fantasy was heavily Star Wars influenced, and does this Trope.

[004] KingZeal

25th Apr '16 at 12:19:01 PM

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The problem, though, is that when people disagree with Goku's

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The problem, though, is that when people disagree with Goku\'s \"non-white\" actions, no one with the \"whiter\" standpoint turns out to be correct. For example, despite all of their complaints about Goku using Gohan, absolutely no one there can do anything but accept it. Same with some of Goku\'s other questionable decisions like destroying the Potara or holding back just to see what Buu is capable of. How \"Black and White\" is your morality, really, when gray decisions are the ones that are in control?

The problem with the narrative\'s stance on \"Black and White\" is that Goku may be intended as White, but when he make Gray decisions, he drags [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong dissenters kicking and screaming with him.]] And often when he DOES make White decisions, he needs someone Grayer to come along and clean up the mess that makes.

[003] KingZeal

25th Apr '16 at 12:14:17 PM

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The problem, though, is that when people disagree with Goku's

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The problem, though, is that when people disagree with Goku\'s \"non-white\" actions, no one with the \"whiter\" standpoint turns out to be correct. For example, despite all of their complaints about Goku using Gohan, absolutely no one there can do anything but accept it. Same with some of Goku\'s other questionable decisions like destroying to Potara. How \"Black and White\" is your morality, really, when gray decisions are the ones that are in control?

The problem with the narrative\'s stance on \"Black and White\" is that Goku may be intended as White, but when he make Gray decisions, he drags [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong dissenters kicking and screaming with him.]] And often when he DOES make White decisions, he needs someone Grayer to come along and clean up the mess that makes.

[002] KingZeal

25th Apr '16 at 12:13:05 PM

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The problem, though, is that when people disagree with Goku\'s \"non-white\" actions, no one with the \"whiter\" standpoint turns out to be correct. For example, despite all of their complaints about Goku using Gohan, absolutely no one there can do anything but accept it. Same with some of Goku\'s other questionable decisions.

The problem with the narrative\'s stance on \"Black and White\" is that Goku may be intended as White, but when he make Gray decisions, he drags [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong dissenters kicking and screaming with him.]] And often when he DOES make White decisions, he needs someone Grayer to come along and clean up the mess that makes.

[001] KingZeal

25th Apr '16 at 12:06:57 PM

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Okay, fair enough. That makes a lot of sense when put that way...so I concede to your point.

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