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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Apr 2nd 2022 at 2:29:29 PM •••

Journey of the West zigzags this trope. Princess Iron Fan's husband is named the "Ox Demon *King*".

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Dec 18th 2016 at 5:36:26 PM •••

This kinda repeats my earlier comment. But I've been thinking more about how media from Japan is often the most blatant with this Trope, and how a Language issue could be at the root. Particularly in how Hime is used as an honorific.

Take the currently airing Anime, Izetta the Last Witch. In both the English Dub and official Subs, Fine's title changes from Princess to Arch-Duchess after her father dies and she has her Coronation. Yet it's been observed that in the Japanese Audio what she's called hasn't changed, she's still Fine-Hime.

Of course I also wonder how much Star Wars might have caused the modern examples of this while not doing it itself. Leia isn't a head of state, but one could easily have been forgiven for thinking she was, especially if they viewed Star Wars through a Language barrier. We know Final Fantasy was heavily Star Wars influenced, and does this Trope.

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TheLyniezian Is not actually from Lyniezia Since: Aug, 2012
Is not actually from Lyniezia
Feb 6th 2014 at 3:02:32 PM •••

"Contrast God Save Usfrom The Queen"???

What is there to contrast exactly? Only that a ruling princess is not strictly speaking a queen- there is surely nothing to imply that said a ruling princess couldn't just as easily be evil and all but fit the trope.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 6th 2014 at 3:10:49 PM •••

Well, princesses are usually not malicious when they rule.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
spudsabre Since: Dec, 2012
Jan 29th 2014 at 5:56:40 PM •••

Do the Code Geass examples actually fit? They are princesses who essentially rule Area 11, but none of them have the "should be called Empress but aren't for some reason" quality.

thewhitewitch Since: Mar, 2012
Jul 2nd 2012 at 12:36:08 PM •••

Eric may be a male exemple, he's called a prince but in the palace his parents (or any king or queen) are nowhere to be seen.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
May 26th 2012 at 1:17:41 AM •••

"Note: Most ruling queens are technically princesses."- But thing is Outside the English Language (Or just in different times and places) the equivalents to Prince and Princess could very often be more commonly used then King and Queen. Princess is rarer then Prince only cause Female leader are rarer then men to start with. So the case of someone like Peach or Zelda could simply be chopped to a Language issue of Cultural Dissonance that makes it seem odd to us.

In the Case of Zelda we certainly see no examples that any Female of the Royal family (Either a Ruling Queen or a Queen Wife or Queen Mother) had ever been called Queen. And for the Mushroon Kingdom no example of Kings ever ruling it either.

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