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The point is, though, why are we assuming anything about characters' sexuality? If Alice likes Bob, that doesn't mean the writer is saying she could never be interested in women and that shipping her with Charlotte is pure fantasy.
I feel like there's just generally a lot of needless gender separation here - both on the site in general and with same vs opposite sex relationships/shipping, in particular. The Ho-yay pages for individual works usually seem like a bunch of 6th-graders going
I feel like there's just generally a lot of needless gender separation here - both on the site in general and with same vs opposite sex relationships/shipping, in particular. The Ho-yay pages for individual works usually seem like a bunch of 6th-graders going
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The point is, though, why are we assuming anything about characters\' sexuality? If Alice likes Bob, that doesn\'t mean the writer is saying she could never be interested in women and that shipping her with Charlotte is pure fantasy.
I feel like there\'s just generally a lot of needless gender separation here - both on the site in general and with same vs opposite sex relationships/shipping, in particular. The Ho-yay pages for individual works usually seem like a bunch of 6th-graders going \"ooooh!\" about something someone told them was naughty.
It could just be me, but it seems homophobic to put implied/inferred same-sex pairings on one page, and implied/inferred opposite-sex pairings on another, and treat the latter as automatically closer to canon, and the former as all just crazy. Even if you think you\'re just \"acknowledging\" a level of homophobia the writers/producers \"must\" have, you\'re backing that attitude by separating it that way. I feel like this page is sort of telling people that no matter what, if you think the writers meant it, you just have your slash goggles on too tight.
We could start by clarifying the real meaning of the trope: Is it, \"Same-sex pairings with substantial fan interest, regardless of canon viability\" or \"Same-sex pairings intentionally teased to titillate a certain segment of fans, without any intention of canon validity\", or somewhere in between? How do canon and practically-canon pairings fit into this? Is there a distinction made between \"They could actually love each other and have a relationship\" and \"It would be hot to put them together in a fanfic\" (to use examples from anime, the pairings in \'\'Free\'\', or Shizuo/Izaya from \'\'Durarara!!\'\'?).
This whole thing seems like something that means so many different things to different people that it ends up not meaning much of anything, as the previous cleanup discussions show.
I feel like there\'s just generally a lot of needless gender separation here - both on the site in general and with same vs opposite sex relationships/shipping, in particular. The Ho-yay pages for individual works usually seem like a bunch of 6th-graders going \"ooooh!\" about something someone told them was naughty.
It could just be me, but it seems homophobic to put implied/inferred same-sex pairings on one page, and implied/inferred opposite-sex pairings on another, and treat the latter as automatically closer to canon, and the former as all just crazy. Even if you think you\'re just \"acknowledging\" a level of homophobia the writers/producers \"must\" have, you\'re backing that attitude by separating it that way. I feel like this page is sort of telling people that no matter what, if you think the writers meant it, you just have your slash goggles on too tight.
We could start by clarifying the real meaning of the trope: Is it, \"Same-sex pairings with substantial fan interest, regardless of canon viability\" or \"Same-sex pairings intentionally teased to titillate a certain segment of fans, without any intention of canon validity\", or somewhere in between? How do canon and practically-canon pairings fit into this? Is there a distinction made between \"They could actually love each other and have a relationship\" and \"It would be hot to put them together in a fanfic\" (to use examples from anime, the pairings in \'\'Free\'\', or Shizuo/Izaya from \'\'Durarara!!\'\'?).
This whole thing seems like something that means so many different things to different people that it ends up not meaning much of anything, as the previous cleanup discussions show.
