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SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
12th Feb, 2020 09:39:02 AM

Wish it didn't have to come to that.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
4th Apr, 2020 07:01:52 PM

Willliam Shakesman has just re-added the example unedited. I don't know whether or not he's the same man, but... it's a bit of a red flag too.

dragonfire5000 Since: Jan, 2001
4th Apr, 2020 10:07:33 PM

Regardless of whether they're the same person or not, their edits are not appropriate.

"He is very left-leaning, to the point where he discourages anyone else from having any other point of views that doesn't align with modern-day democratic opinions. He seems to heavily believe that anyone who is even slightly right-leaning is a fascist Nazi." Really?

BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
5th Apr, 2020 07:43:05 AM

I probably missed something in the original post, but isn't that entry a possibly violation of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment?

Edited by BKelly95
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
5th Apr, 2020 08:46:21 AM

Yes, it is. I'd say that that kind of phrasing is only appropriate if the person in question has used it himself to describe his beliefs.

dragonfire5000 Since: Jan, 2001
5th Apr, 2020 09:18:27 AM

And in this case, the phrasing is not appropriate at all. It really reads like someone wanting to wonk about a content creator they don't like.

Add in that said someone might be a ban evader...

FranksGirl Since: Feb, 2014
5th Apr, 2020 12:44:07 PM

Bumping for mod response on William Shakesman possibly being a ban evader. Edits here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=WilliamShakesman The account seems to have started in March, not long after Draco Dragon 9 was suspended. His re-adding the example that a mod deleted is just...gah.

SkyCat32 (Five Year Plan)
5th Apr, 2020 02:20:26 PM

I don't know anyone on either side of the political spectrum who thinks that sexual predation apologism is acceptable.

I would personally suggest commenting out the example citing the rule of cautious editing judgement, with a note not to uncomment it until it is rewritten neutrally.

Rawr.
dragonfire5000 Since: Jan, 2001
6th Apr, 2020 08:13:21 AM

I'd also like to get a mod opinion on whether it's okay for me to delete the entry stating:

He is very left-leaning, to the point where he discourages anyone else from having any other point of views that doesn't align with modern-day democratic opinions. He seems to heavily believe that anyone who is even slightly right-leaning is a fascist Nazi.

As someone who watches the web show in question, I've never seen the content creator make such a statement, and the entry itself comes off as an agenda-pursuing troper's personal wonk.

EDIT: Looks like someone else removed the problematic entry already.

Edited by dragonfire5000
FranksGirl Since: Feb, 2014
6th Apr, 2020 02:56:24 PM

I second dragonfire5000's statement. I also watch the show in question, and my own eyebrow raised when I saw Draco & Shakesman's entry.

Mods? Seriously — we've probably got a ban-evader with William Shakesman.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
6th Apr, 2020 05:32:16 PM

Deleted the entry, and left a strong recommendation to either come here or to discussion.

chasemaddigan Since: Oct, 2011
6th Apr, 2020 05:43:23 PM

It's possible they're not a ban-evader, because someone's edit history only goes up to a certain amount of edits before it stops keeping track. It's possible they've been on the site much longer, but they've done so many edits that it doesn't go past March.

Still suspicious behavior though.

Edited by chasemaddigan
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