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Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 4th 2010 at 7:37:40 AM

Yep. Though you'll want artillery for the huskarls.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
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Aug 4th 2010 at 7:39:38 AM

Arilou speaks truth. Which is why when fighting siege weapon laden civs like the Huns Mongols and Celts, I tend to divide my army into at least five groups and I try to micro at least 60% of them while initiating a multi-prong attack.

edited 4th Aug '10 7:48:43 AM by Mapi

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Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 4th 2010 at 7:47:44 AM

Mongols have better siege tech than Huns. tongue

They get a unique tech that increases speed by 30%, IIRC.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
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Aug 4th 2010 at 7:48:25 AM

Hence my question in IRC yes, I forgot which among them had better siege tech.

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DarkDecapodian The Prodigal Returns from the fold
The Prodigal Returns
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:03:25 AM

@ Mapi: What do you use the other 5 number keys for, then?

Aww, did I hurt your widdle fee-fees?
Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:04:27 AM

Scouts during midgame and early game. Conversely, different units (for instance, 1-5 = Huskarls, while 6-8 = Halberdiers).

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Scruffy from Texas
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:28:54 AM

I typically use the Teutons or the Byzantines, so Huskarls don't give me much trouble. Heavy cavalry like Paladins and Cataphracts and infantry like the Teutonic Knights can really screw with them.

Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
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Aug 4th 2010 at 8:34:18 AM

The Teutons are ridiculously strong late-game, so if an opponent is using them, I try to take them out ASAP.

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Scruffy from Texas
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:45:13 AM

It's a shame I have no way to play online. I tried a third-party fan server system, but I couldn't get it to work.

Has anyone else found success with something like that?

DarkDecapodian The Prodigal Returns from the fold
The Prodigal Returns
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:46:11 AM

@ Mapi: Probably better than my own setup of having a unit type to each key, when you only want a few unit types.

I don't mind the Teutons, but I don't get as much use out of Teutonic Knights as some other civs' unique units. Too slow for me.

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Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
Aug 4th 2010 at 8:46:20 AM

Me and GMH have played a couple of games over Hamachi.

^ I model my number groups the way I do in Starcraft.

edited 4th Aug '10 8:47:06 AM by Mapi

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Aug 4th 2010 at 1:49:18 PM

Scruffy: Yeah, Hamachi, it basically creates a new virtual connection on your computer, so it's separate from normal IP or LAN connections. Works great, though takes a bit of setting up (including allowing it in the Windows Firewall if applicable).

Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 4th 2010 at 4:25:18 PM

There's also GameRanger.

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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace
Taller than Zim
Aug 4th 2010 at 4:29:10 PM

Huns are fairly nasty in sieges due to their tarkans. But they don't have that good siege-engines per se.

Koreans, btw. are just plain nasty.

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Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 4th 2010 at 4:36:09 PM

Koreans are fucking tanks.

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Wheezy (That Guy You Met Once) from South Philly
(That Guy You Met Once)
Aug 4th 2010 at 4:44:15 PM

I was always a fan of the Chinese and, if we're playing All Techs, the Franks and Britons. Anyone whose unique unit will let me rain projectiles on the other guy's infantry the minute they step out of the fog of war.

I never liked war elephants, they're too vunerable to bombard towers...

Speaking of bombard towers, did anyone else come to fucking hate the bloody things after a while? For some reason, computer players seemed to love spamming them.

BTW: I've played AOEII for five years, but never once online. The minute I get a home internet connection, that will be one of my first priorities.

edited 4th Aug '10 4:46:35 PM by Wheezy

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Scruffy from Texas
Aug 4th 2010 at 5:39:26 PM

Which is more user friendly? My comps generally don't play well with other services.

Anyway, I've heard that the Vikings are <ahem> the worst civ in land maps loltiers. Anyone wanna call bs?

Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 4th 2010 at 9:42:57 PM

The trick is: Don't ever let anyone reach Imperial.

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Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu
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Aug 5th 2010 at 6:06:30 AM

Kinkajou speaks truth. Finish the game during the Castle Age at the latest because upgrading to the Elite version of your unique unit eats up a fuckton of resources, and it may not even be worth the upgrade (there are possibly better unique Castle upgrades to get depending on your civ).

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Kinkajou One Man Army from you're not your
One Man Army
Aug 5th 2010 at 6:20:09 AM

Except if you're the Byzantines. You'll want to get to Imperial with them ASAP.

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Scruffy from Texas
Aug 5th 2010 at 8:24:07 AM

I was always a fan of the Chinese and,
Yeah, their Chu Ko Nus (sp?) were BEASTS en masse.

if we're playing All Techs, the Franks
They never really appealed to me. They had good Paladins, but their Throwing Axemen... meh.

Britons.
The horrors... the pure, unadulterated Elite Longbowmen horrors...

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows!
The Shadows Devour You.
Aug 5th 2010 at 11:37:20 AM

I always end up hitting my own units with my onagers... :(

I tend to go for bombard cannons rather than trebuchets. Faster to set up and with some anti-infantry capabilities. And I am a big fan of the longbowmen.

edited 5th Aug '10 11:37:40 AM by GameChainsaw

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Aug 5th 2010 at 12:08:25 PM

I used to just create a large mass of military units and use them all at the same time.

Then I realized that my siege units were killing my infantry. Lovely.

Wheezy (That Guy You Met Once) from South Philly
(That Guy You Met Once)
Aug 5th 2010 at 2:11:56 PM

Yeah, their Chu Ko Nus (sp?) were BEASTS en masse.

I loved gathering as many Chu Ko Nus as you could control at the same time (I think it was about 40) and have them wander through the battlefield functioning as a firing squad for any enemy units (except siege weapons, of course) that happened to come my way. Same thing with the longbows.

I always end up hitting my own units with my onagers... :(

Onagers suck. Don't use them. Bombard cannons are better against buildings and scorpions are better against people, and neither of them will wipe out platoons of your own guys.

edited 5th Aug '10 2:12:22 PM by Wheezy

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Scruffy from Texas
Aug 5th 2010 at 3:02:34 PM

Onagers suck. Don't use them. Bombard cannons are better against buildings and scorpions are better against people, and neither of them will wipe out platoons of your own guys.
Thing is, not every civ gets bombard towers. The ones who don't have to settle on something else. Case in point: Goths. They don't even get stone walls.

I tend to only build Trebuchets for taking down castles; not much else. I make a handful of onagers for dealing with infantry, but only when I can really afford it. I rarely use scorpions.


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