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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85376: Feb 23rd 2020 at 1:59:29 PM

I love that Yuri's build is, like, perfectly tailored for Dancer.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#85377: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:10:41 PM

Can the Ashen Wolves be made into Dancers, then? I'll have to amend my spreadsheets.

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#85378: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:13:50 PM

Should I make Constance my dancer? In a Crimson flower run?

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#85379: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:31:46 PM

[up] Depends on who else you recruited out-of-house. Constance seems to be too good to be a dancer.

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#85380: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:45:51 PM

[up] Well Annette is usually good for dancing.

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Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#85381: Feb 23rd 2020 at 9:55:59 PM

Marianne's also surprisingly effective.

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#85382: Feb 23rd 2020 at 10:05:53 PM

Dorothea on CF is the best dancer, I feel, if every mage on your squad turns out better than her (which is pretty often because, oof, those growths).

Better to give her some kind of role instead of benching her until the occasional Meteor.

Edited by erazor0707 on Feb 23rd 2020 at 1:06:29 PM

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mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
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#85383: Feb 24th 2020 at 2:01:21 AM

in my experience the best dancer is the unit you were never going to use anyway. Dancers don't need stats to be good, just smart positioning and shit. I made layn a dancer and her magic almost never comes into play since 9 out of 10 times she would rather dance than heal.

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#85384: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:48:03 AM

There are a couple optimizations that can be made for Dancers, even if they don't end up ever needing to back-up attack/heal: siege magic so that they can provide that 10-11-range link attack bonus, and Riding proficiency for easy Move +1. They're not completely necessary, but do help rather noticeably with player phase aggression strats.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#85385: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:04:32 PM

Really, though, the best choice of dancer is whomever would be funniest in the attire.

Dancer Dimitri is a thing of beauty post-timeskip.

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#85386: Feb 24th 2020 at 1:16:33 PM

The RNG for opposing houses chose Dedue as the candidate when I ran Deer and Eagles. As a result, I was almost tempted to make him mine for my Blue Lions run. Ended up doing Sylvain instead because his stats weren't looking so hot, plus the bonus of thinking it would still be some level of funny. Turns out I wasn't disappointed, since he reacted as though he didn't expect me to choose him (and then quickly covering it up with the whole "oh, yeah, I'll totally kill it for the ladies" facade).

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#85387: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:22:36 PM

So, Between Seth from Sacred Stones and Lysithea from 3 Houses, who's the bigger meme in terms of being Broken as hell from their respective games?

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#85388: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:24:44 PM

Seth, because Lysithea's meme is based entirely around how her anti-cavalry spell utterly destroys the Death Knight, and she's far too squishy to solo the game otherwise.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#85389: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:27:34 PM

Yeah, unlike with Seth I haven't heard anyone saying that a Lysithea solo run is actually easier than playing the game normally. tongue

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#85390: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:29:53 PM

Lysithea also easily reaches the offensive levels to one-shot many Maddening enemies, usually starting from around Chapter 8 or 9. She definitely lacks bulk, though, so yeah, there's little chance she'd be able to solo her way through much.

Granted, Seth also benefits from very low enemy quality. He'd likely fare far less well against a Sacred Stones equivalent of Maddening. Still, I'd probably rather place my faith in him, because greater bulk and mobility.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#85391: Feb 24th 2020 at 7:51:10 PM

Seth's only competition is Mr. Siggy.

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#85392: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:02:44 PM

I can think of several units more broken than Lysithea. Seth, Haar, Sigurd, Critger, Titania, the Laguz Royals, Ryoma, Robin...

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#85394: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:12:47 PM

[up]Dimitri: Seal Attack!

Annette: Seal Magic!

Ingrid: Seal Speed!

Dedue: Seal Defense!

Byleth: Not at all what I meant when I said to focus on those skills, but full points for enthusiasm.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
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#85395: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:21:20 PM

[up][up][up]Do the Laguz royals really count when they're the equivalent of 11th hour superpowers for the endgame?

Honestly, Radiant Dawn had like no balance. Separating the game in four arcs pretty much made it impossible to grow a team properly.

And it's just unfair when they put the Greil mercenaries in your hands.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#85396: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:23:41 PM

It could work if they had a system like Sacred Stones/Valentia. Make it so we can replay on old maps against random enemies.

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#85397: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:31:39 PM

Radiant Dawn was really weird in that the devs felt the extreme urge to constantly hand out Jagens. Then Jagens to the Jagens. Except they could also cap stats because of BEXP abuse.

And at least it still has way better unit balance flow than Revelation. I'll still never quite get over Nyx and Shura joining in the same chapter. Or Elise, Effie and Arthur joining in the same chapter as Mr. Unbreakable Wall Silas.

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#85398: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:31:59 PM

[up][up][up] Like no balance in a good way or bad way? It's been years.

All i remember with Miciah's team is that you never use the Black Knight too much otherwise you are fucked.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 24th 2020 at 8:33:05 AM

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#85399: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:41:42 PM

Black Knight really isn't around enough to completely wreck the Dawn Brigade's EXP gain. The key is resisting the temptation to spread EXP to more than three members of the team, as that's where the problems really start. Typically, that's going to be Sothe, Nolan and Jill. Edward can also work if his first couple levels aren't complete ass. From a design perspective, the Dawn Brigade are horribly designed because there are units with really dumb growth focuses (like Leonardo having over 1/3 of his growths put into Luck and Skill) or complete jokes for bases and availability (Meg for the former and Fiona for the former and latter). This makes it easy to fall into the trap of using a favoured unit that is going to have garbo stats until the BEXP can begin.

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MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
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#85400: Feb 24th 2020 at 8:50:15 PM

Okay, so, here's what I remember about playing the Dawn Brigade:

  • Everybody should be hiding behind Tauroneo. Aran can take his place later on.
  • Feed all your BEXP to Laura. She's a great unit but she needs a lot of help to get strong.
  • Have Nolan and Volug support together. They can't get hit. Seriously, I had them do this in part four of a playthrough where I had underutilized both of them, and they were still invincible.
  • Do whatever with Edward and blond Edward. They don't matter.
  • Micaiah can use Thani. That's about all she has going for her.
  • Sothe got to be useful during part I. That was about it.

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