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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#10351: Sep 12th 2018 at 11:50:49 AM

The US was encountering the Russian equivalent of the Green Tip though. The X SAPI was in part built to eat sniper rounds from Russian rimmed 7.62mm R and keep on trucking.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10352: Sep 12th 2018 at 12:15:37 PM

Yeah, everyone wants to get in on the "green tip" act.

Now to be fair to the other posters - no one has been rushing to try and copy Chinese designs.

Hell, rails are popping up everywhere - China and Russia included.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#10353: Sep 12th 2018 at 1:27:11 PM

I mentioned it in another thread, but a lot of Russian rails are actually designed to be compatible with pic rail accessories so they can use Western-made attachments.

They should have sent a poet.
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#10354: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:30:35 PM

The US was encountering the Russian equivalent of the Green Tip though.

Yeah 7N10 model of 5.45 instead of older 7N6. Much better at anti-armor it is.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#10355: Sep 19th 2018 at 10:05:09 PM

Actual Combat Footage From World War One.

Specifically, the Battle of Chateau-Thierry (and some Belleau Wood).

Name the guns and artillery!

I spot a Vickers crew who is either operating with very poor quality ammo and belts or an extremely beat to shit weapon. Count the jams that guy has and compare it to the Vickers reputation for foolproof reliability. Something in that equation wasn't working as it was supposed to.

Also I spy a 1914 Hotchkiss in Anti-Air usage modified for belt use. (Maybe in 11mm Gras for balloon busting? I can't see the ammo well enough to tell which.)

Then we have some field guns, model I don't know which.

And of course an obligatory shot of a Mk IV tank.

Edited by MajorTom on Sep 19th 2018 at 10:07:33 AM

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#10356: Sep 20th 2018 at 4:39:56 PM

The Vickers machine gun wasn't quite as reliable as it's been made out to be. In the manual of arms, there were something like two dozen different procedures for clearing various types of stoppages. The machine-gunners were intensively trained in correcting all these malfunctions, which is why a Vickers gun was considered reliable. It was the operator as much as the equipment.

In a similar vein, British infantrymen were taught marksmanship in an academic fashion, and were expected to hit targets with a rifle at up to a mile away.

The various models of Browning machine guns, now those were super-reliable.

Edited by pwiegle on Sep 20th 2018 at 7:48:14 AM

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#10357: Sep 20th 2018 at 6:37:39 PM

The Vickers may not have been as reliable as some might believe, but it was certainly one of the most reliable machine-guns of its era, and served the British Armed Forces extremely well for decades. Just ask the ghosts of the many German, Italian and Japanese troops it harvested if it worked well or not.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#10358: Sep 20th 2018 at 10:06:08 PM

The Vickers machine gun wasn't quite as reliable as it's been made out to be.

Considering there are both evaluation reports and combat reports of the Vickers functioning flawlessly for hours, if not days at a time to the tune of thousands to tens of thousands of rounds fired without stoppage, that's not entirely a true accusation.

The only reasons it's not still used in the UK anymore are its ginormous weight and the fact .303 British fell out of favor as a military cartridge.

Edited by MajorTom on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:08:44 AM

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#10359: Sep 21st 2018 at 3:43:06 AM

[up] That’s more in reference the cooling system than stoppages. Even during those “torture tests” stoppages were still experienced, but that was considered unremarkable for a machine gun of that era.

They should have sent a poet.
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#10360: Sep 28th 2018 at 10:50:26 AM

Lobaev Arms To Develop Hypersonic Ammunition And Semi-Auto Sniper

TWO KILOMETERS PER SECOND MUZZLE VELOCITY! Let's hope for the simple basis of science that this is not some Soviet Superscience type puff piece. Cuz if the Russians could achieve that, just think what we could do with it.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#10361: Sep 28th 2018 at 11:06:12 AM

I have serious doubts about that claim. The recoil alone would be horrendous in anything but the much smaller rounds.

You would need either a small saboted round and/or a fairly heavy gun to do this. Maybe they are trying to mimic the Steyr IWS 2000?

Edited by TuefelHundenIV on Sep 28th 2018 at 1:13:46 PM

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#10362: Sep 28th 2018 at 2:44:34 PM

“detonating chemical substance of special composition”

That substance is certainly bullshit.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#10363: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:16:29 PM

Likely just a fancy way of using high-quality propellant you could buy on any market.

It is possible to get that fast but the closest weapon to it was the Steyr IWS 2000 and it did that with a roughly 10mm subcaliber projectile riding in a 15+mm Sabot fired out of a very uniquely made AM rifle. It hit a muzzle velocity of around 1.4 km/s. Had a pretty flat trajectory to boot. They used what was basically a modified artillery based recoil mechanism with a long recoil cycle.

Edited by TuefelHundenIV on Sep 28th 2018 at 6:20:03 AM

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#10364: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:54:15 PM

I can hardly see someone making a 2Km/s muzzle velocity without making the weapon becoming impractical to use, like using liquid propellants on a multiple charge gun or outright making the gun with so much chamber pressure and propellant it will need some serious bracing for it to work.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#10365: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:07:07 PM

I can see them possibly hitting 2km/s but not with any large caliber bullets. Like I said sub-caliber projectiles in a sabot with a large and heavy gun. One of the heaviest AMAT weapons out there is the NTW-20HS and NTW-14. They fire some incredibly potent rounds. A big part of that is all aimed at recoil management. Weight and the heavy long recoil cycle recoil buffering system to eat the recoil those weapons generate. It might actually be quite feasible with the NTW-20 HS with a heavily modified cartridge and sub-projectile.

No liquid propellant would be necessary for this. A propellant that is closer to an explosive, on the other hand, is a different story. The more energetic propellants are basically granulated explosives.

They could also go the .220 Swift cartridge route. A 29-grain bullet and 42 grains of 3031 powder. It holds the world record for single fastest bullet ever fired out of a small arm. They hit 1.422 km/s with a bullet fired from a modified 6mm Lee Navy casing firing a .220 caliber bullet. See here.

Either way I wouldn't actually expect anything truly groundbreaking but something closer to a novel venture and ballistic dick waving that won't actually amount to much.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#10366: Sep 30th 2018 at 7:25:01 PM

It doesn’t seem completely impossible, but I’d be more inclined to believe it if the Russian defense industry wasn’t so famously full of shit.

They should have sent a poet.
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#10367: Sep 30th 2018 at 7:35:53 PM

It's not even from the defense industry proper, he's just some dude with no contracts from the looks of it.

Oh really when?
TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10368: Oct 7th 2018 at 2:30:42 AM

Behold, Sig Sauer has a pistol for the US Army's 3rd Infantry Regiment, "The Old Guard" and their Tomb Of the Unknown Soldier guards.

Shiny and chrome.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#10369: Oct 7th 2018 at 3:15:11 AM

I'm guessing these will belong to the unit, rather than the personnel. There are some pretty strict rules on government employees accepting gifts (you'll recall the NRA presented FCC chairman Ajit Pai with a musket, symbolically anyways, as they could not bring it to the Conservative Political Action Conference's gun-free space nor could Pai legally accept it, so it basically just went directly into a display case at the NRA headquarters.)

Edited by AFP on Oct 7th 2018 at 4:18:39 AM

TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10370: Oct 7th 2018 at 3:30:08 AM

The SOG (sergeant of the guard) wears a pistol so he'd carry it. The standard M17 is a FDE gun with rails and a tacticool holster - clashing with the look of the ASU and chromed rifles. So Sig went and blinged up their gun to give the Tomb Guard SOG something to wear.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#10371: Oct 7th 2018 at 10:04:16 PM

BREAKING: US Army to REBOOT Next Generation Squad Weapons Program?

The NGSAR is dead, long live the NGSW. We haven’t heard much from the US Army about its next generation infantry weapons programme since the announcement of six contract awards for the Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle (NGSAR) back in June. Just a week before the Association of the United States Army (AUSA)’s 2018 annual meeting Army Contracting Command has released a new draft Next Generation Squad Weapons Prototype Opportunity Notice (PON).

On the 25th June, the US Army awarded six Other Transaction Agreements (or OT As) to five companies: AAI Corproation Textron Systems, FN America (awarded two contracts – likely for the FN HAMR and a belt fed gun), General Dynamics, PCP Tactical and SIG Sauer.

What the Army is asking:

The NGSW-R and the NGSW-AR prototypes shall:

a. allow for ambidextrous operation and controls; b. include a removable flash hider, suppressor, and a tool for removal after firing or for maintenance; c. include a tactical carrying sling with quick release attachments; d. include selection positions for Safe, Semi-Automatic Firing, and Automatic Firing modes; e. be resistant to corrosion, abrasion, impact and chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear defense (CBRNE) contaminants, decontaminants, battlefield-chemicals, electromagnetic pulse and cyber-attacks; f. reduce visual detection via a neutral non-reflective, non-black color not lighter than Light Coyote 481 and not darker than Coyote 499; g. function in all environments and weather conditions, including marine, high humidity, rain, and desert conditions; h. be compatible with combat clothing (including body armor and Modular Lightweight Load-carrying Equipment), CBRNE, wet weather, and cold weather gear; i. provide interchangeable magazines between both weapons if NGSW-AR utilizes a magazine; and j. include MIL-STD-1913 equivalent rails capable of mounting Rifle Combat Optic, Close Combat Optic, Aiming Laser, Family of Weapon Sights–Individual, Squad-Fire Control and other legacy enablers.

Edited by TairaMai on Oct 9th 2018 at 12:45:05 AM

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#10372: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:49:37 PM

Doing some OSINT practice with something small to start with.


https://shiraberublog.wordpress.com/2018/11/13/osint-warmup-on-small-arms/

Did a blog post where the Philippine National Police has announced the arrest of five contractors suspected of being hired assassins for local elections next year.

Among the guns shown is a Type 56-1 with aftermarket parts. I was able to identify the T-Pod as FAB Defense.

I need help with identifying the others if possible.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#10373: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:55:27 PM

It's always tough to tell with knockoff parts.

That rail is fairly distinct, though I think it may be an airsoft rail and not a real one. The material looks cheap. The unevenness of the edge near the upper handguard also makes me think it might be cut down from a different design. The sight is almost impossible to get a brand off unless we get better pictures, you can buy sights that look almost identical to that one for like 30 bucks off Amazon ([1]) and there are dozens of brands that make them.

Edited by archonspeaks on Nov 12th 2018 at 5:56:01 AM

They should have sent a poet.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#10374: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:09:54 PM

Thanks man.

I had a feeling that it was airsoft that can be configured for that rifle, then it's possible that they were used for it, including the red dot.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#10375: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:24:48 PM

In countries outside the US and Europe it's almost impossible to determine exact brands. Knockoffs reign supreme, and there are thousands of potential manufacturers.

Airsoft parts are much cheaper but can't stand up to the forces an actual firearm puts out. Of course, they still fit, which means they're popular among those who can't afford real parts or who those don't really plan on using their weapon that much. Naturally, you can assume who those people are.

They should have sent a poet.

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