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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#142801: Aug 14th 2019 at 6:03:16 AM

To be fair, the protector god was also "dominating" them, whatever that means.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#142802: Aug 14th 2019 at 7:19:54 AM

It’s fine as long as there was a safe word

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142803: Aug 14th 2019 at 7:34:40 AM

For all the talk of 'don't trust them!', the animal spirits seem like pretty friendly people.

Like, I guess they're manipulating the protags, but they're actually quite polite about it.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#142804: Aug 14th 2019 at 2:25:59 PM

The animal spirits are essentially full characters and it's a shame they don't get names or portraits. This is practically another team game like IN or SA.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#142805: Aug 14th 2019 at 11:34:54 PM

I think Unlocated Hell is my favorite out of the WBaWC stage themes.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#142806: Aug 15th 2019 at 5:40:06 AM

Man, having Otter Goast makes Keiki's last two spellcards so easy. Next to infinite bullet-cancel barrier ahoy.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142807: Aug 15th 2019 at 3:22:38 PM

Prince Shoutoku's Pegasus

Edited by asterism on Aug 15th 2019 at 10:23:36 AM

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MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#142808: Aug 15th 2019 at 5:43:23 PM

^^ So I take it Zombie Goast never came to be...

TiamatRoar Since: Apr, 2013
#142809: Aug 15th 2019 at 6:15:26 PM

Sorry if it's been brought up before. Looks like Yachie's profile explains that the beast gangs are based on themes, which is why a pegasus can be a leader of the wolf gang (which is those with excellent leg strength, fangs, and/or strong bodies)

Edited by TiamatRoar on Aug 15th 2019 at 6:15:49 AM

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#142810: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:09:44 PM

Yeah, it's not really animal species, more like what you deemed the most important.

Keiga - brute force, Kiketsu - cunning and tactics, Gouyaku - pride

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142811: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:39:24 PM

I think there's also a fourth, less important faction that uses poison and whatnot?

And the humans and idols, of course

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#142812: Aug 15th 2019 at 8:54:13 PM

Yeah, there's a mysterious 4th faction of ninjas. They're so good at hiding that no one's ever seen them.

They do get mentioned by Saki in one of the extra stages, at least.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#142813: Aug 16th 2019 at 8:13:50 PM

Well, I did a run of WBAWC. It was a quarter-muncher run, just to see up to the final boss and prepare for later. Quite the fun ride; I like the boss fights a good deal this time around.

I was doing Eagle Youmu because Otter got nerfed pretty hard between the trial and the full game, but I may go back to Otter Reimu for another run. Otter may be nerfed, but boy howdy did I wish I had it for some of the fights. It's no longer effective invincibility, but it's pretty useful all the same. Youmu also has troubles consistently hitting some bosses, particularly the stage 4 one. But I knew what I was getting into, after how she played last time.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#142814: Aug 16th 2019 at 8:26:28 PM

@True Shadow 1

Wait, it's not set in hell? So ZUN is hinting about troubles in hell, but then ignores it?

The beast realm is one of the Buddhist realms in the cycle of rebirth, right?

*googles*

Yeah, apparently it's a place ruled by impulses and the rule of predators, which sounds like what we're dealing with here? Hell is one of the realms, so I suppose if we were traveling through the realms, we'd pass through Hell at one point. Of course, I'm not sure if that's meant to be seen as a physical or metaphyiscal place, or if it's a state of existence that our heroes shouldn't be able to travel to.

The six realms are those of Hell, of Preta (hungry ghosts), of Animals, of Asura, of Humans, and of Gods. Youmu's spell cards way back in Perfect Cherry Blossom referred to these concepts too (with some only mentioned on Hard), with her stage six spell being "Six realms sword", combining them all.


And yeah, I'm aware that Reimu has gone to several hells not quite in line with the Buddhist rendition, but dang near everything seems to be true in this setting, so I'm not surprised if that's the case.

Edited by Enlong on Aug 16th 2019 at 11:31:23 AM

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142815: Aug 16th 2019 at 8:51:13 PM

Is the Hell that Shiki rules over and Kutaka guards meant to be Naraka, then?

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#142816: Aug 16th 2019 at 8:59:34 PM

Possibly?

I think Shiki oversees a number of different hells, though. We've thus far seen this game's location, the abandoned hell that Satori's living in, and the place Reimu potentially visited in the very first game. And possibly even another one, depending on where Hecatia's hell body is situated.

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Tacitus This. Cannot. Continue from The Great American Dumpster Fire Since: Jan, 2001
This. Cannot. Continue
#142817: Aug 16th 2019 at 9:22:19 PM

Having established that different worlds have their own hells, now we get to wonder whether they in turn have their own six realms, of which their hells are but a part.

Also, mefomefo's take on the four newest girls. And a bonus yeecaw.

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#142818: Aug 16th 2019 at 10:06:26 PM

There are different hells? My impression that Hell is just this one really big place, with each time we visit a different section of it.

Excepting Old Hell, which is explicitly abandoned.

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#142819: Aug 17th 2019 at 12:40:06 AM

There are multiple Hells/Narakas in Buddhism, and I imagine that similar concepts from other religions are out there in the Touhouverse, too.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#142820: Aug 17th 2019 at 10:33:12 PM

Hang on to your nutbladders because Mamange is back! (At the moment, new stuff is untranslated.)

Edited by MajorTom on Aug 17th 2019 at 10:34:49 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142821: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:49:24 AM

do you think jo'on plays gacha games

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#142822: Aug 19th 2019 at 8:34:01 PM

...probably does. A whale, too.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#142823: Aug 20th 2019 at 6:59:08 AM

All with “donated” money, of course.

——————

Speaking of underhanded tactics, I found it neat to learn on an Otter run (bad end still) that the Otter spirit is specifically one of Yachie’s kinsmen, and that their clan is known for their dirty tricks. “The back door is the quickest and best route” is a heck of a clan motto.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#142824: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:16:00 AM

Yep. Also the Wolf Spirit is one of Saki's peons.

that was fast

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TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#142825: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:16:27 AM

Yeah, it's on the backstory. The wolf is Saki's (extra stage boss) underling, while the eagle's boss didn't appear.


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