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eyorto Since: Jul, 2021
#12026: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:38:55 PM

X2 (the X-Hunters watching X), X4 (in Zero's ending), and X5 (in X and Zero's boss talks with Sigma). The last especially. Tvs C is more of a bonus even if it has the only certain time Wily spoke to Zero in the present.

Day of Sigma also have Cain and Sigma himself speak of X as a reploid.

Edited by eyorto on Sep 19th 2021 at 10:48:46 AM

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#12027: Sep 20th 2021 at 3:55:53 AM

Cain coins the term "Reploid" to describe the first robot he made based on X. If it later came to have a broader meaning, it'd be in-universe linguistic drift. Which would honestly make sense - nobody, even people "in the know," treats X like he's the master mold of every single other reploid in the world.

I wonder if we know Cain's first reploid.

eyorto Since: Jul, 2021
#12028: Sep 20th 2021 at 9:09:27 AM

Cain himself speaks of X as a reploid.

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#12029: Sep 20th 2021 at 10:41:11 AM

As I recall, X doesn't actually know he's a robot created by Light and thinks he's a Reploid in some adaptations.

That and most of the other Hunters and Reploids look down on him for being such an outdated model.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 20th 2021 at 1:41:51 PM

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#12030: Sep 20th 2021 at 1:49:46 PM

Reploids as a whole lack pattern recognition it seems

You’d think after the 500th person that mocks X for being outdated and then immediately explodes every future reploid would learn that no technological advance will ever be as good as some stuff a guy dug out of the ground after a hundred years

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#12031: Sep 20th 2021 at 2:19:29 PM

Like I said in the Fire Emblem thread, it's a bad guy trend to act like the heroes are weak and are no match for you despite having wiped the floor with your armies, and logically the bad guys should be crapping themselves in fear when they see X and/or Zero at their doorstep.

But nah, just look down on the pacifist. Even the Zero villains get in on this, and keep underestimating Zero for being a centuries old piece of tech. I do like how in X's story mode, Vile is utterly in disbelief that he lost to X. I do wish the series expanded on their rivalry and Vile just gets more and more unhinged at losing to X.

Even Sigma at one point realized that X is unstoppable so he changed tactics and tried to possess him. And then forgetting about it later on. It IS still notable that Sigma will acknowledge X as superior to Zero in X5, if X is the one to reach him.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#12032: Sep 20th 2021 at 6:08:54 PM

That is something X5 got right, at least. The Mavericks seem to realize that their number is up when you're the one after them, even as X/Zero tries to deescalate.

CastletonSnob Since: Jun, 2020
#12033: Sep 20th 2021 at 6:09:27 PM

Do the Mega Man X games ever reveal what happened to the original Mega Man?

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CasualChris Since: May, 2020
#12035: Sep 20th 2021 at 6:38:28 PM

[up][up]No, but we do know what happened to Auto!

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#12036: Sep 20th 2021 at 6:44:03 PM

I honestly think that Classic and X make more sense as separate forks, like Battle Network and Classic

I know that there’s all these continuity nods but there’s so much between point classic and point X that the most common fan theory is that an apocalypse happened between them

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Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#12037: Sep 20th 2021 at 7:05:47 PM

Wasn't it stated that robotics technology regressed by the time Dr. Cain found X, or is that fanon?

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#12038: Sep 20th 2021 at 7:27:57 PM

It's fanon, but it does make more sense that there was some intention not to make an A.I on X's level rather than somehow nobody was able to reach it in an entire century. Especially since they already were close to it with the Robot Masters, who have their own personalities and consciousness but are limited by their programming and the three laws

The idea that there was some ruling to prevent Reploids being made in the 100 year gap also plays into Dr Light's statement in Maverick Hunter X that people aren't ready for X as a factor for why he was sealed.

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#12039: Sep 20th 2021 at 7:29:06 PM

A la the Butlerian thing in Dune but less severe?

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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#12040: Sep 20th 2021 at 7:43:15 PM

It's not unlikely that things went bad between Classic and X. Mega Man isnt afraid of people suffering an apocalyptic event or four.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Sep 20th 2021 at 10:44:35 AM

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#12041: Sep 20th 2021 at 8:40:32 PM

[up] That's exactly how I theorized what went down between Classic and X to explain why Light's lab became a ruin Dr. Cain dug up because he was an archeologist.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#12042: Sep 20th 2021 at 9:26:29 PM

Duranzo: kinda? a lot of them arent really evil robots in the same they are desing for combat, most if not all of them are infected and know they will be put down, so they just kinda said their goodbyes.

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eyorto Since: Jul, 2021
#12043: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:02:31 AM

eh, I'd just say cuts of the fandom are just too attached to Bob and George's headcanon of some Zero-centric apocalypse happening for edginess. On the contrary, no one saying anything about anything important happening between Classic and X would point to there being no such events. And it fits with the production lore for X.

Edited by eyorto on Sep 21st 2021 at 12:04:53 PM

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#12044: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:04:14 AM

I know what this is, but I've never read it.

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#12045: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:04:27 AM

I really wonder how the Archie Comics would have handled the gap? Oh what could have been...

Honestly, while the whole Zero kills the OG Mega Man cast theory is interesting, it's pretty notable that none of them have a convincing reason why Zero is sealed up in a capsule if he did kill the cast.

Even the Bob and George version just has Zero beaten by Auto of all people.

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Perseus from Australia Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#12046: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:05:52 AM

I will never understand why people are so desperate to make Classic MM edgy, to be quite honest.

Edited by Perseus on Sep 22nd 2021 at 5:07:03 AM

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eyorto Since: Jul, 2021
#12047: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:06:00 AM

I mean they ended the comic with them all going on vacation and just not interfering anymore.

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#12048: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:10:14 AM

A Zero based ending for MM doesnt make much sense. But something has to happen to destroy Light's lab and bury X's chamber.

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#12049: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:10:23 AM

[up][up][up] Well, most of them grew up with Classic Mega Man, and wanted it to suit their tastes as they became edgy adults.

That and Classic Mega Man does have some messed up implications when thinking about it.

And I say this as a fan of the Protomen, Megaas, and the Legacy of Metal fics.

[up] At the same time, it is kinda anti-climatic that Zero was just locked up in his capsule because he wouldn't obey Dr. Wily.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 21st 2021 at 3:11:05 PM

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eyorto Since: Jul, 2021
#12050: Sep 21st 2021 at 12:17:28 AM

Where did it say that X was sealed in THE Light lab? I would think he would be placed in somewhere that couldn't be reached by the public.


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