Raildex verse (A Certain Magical Index, A Certain Scientific Railgun, A Certain Scientific Accelerator)

Okay... so, exactly, what's the freaking point in using a McGuffin that will end the world just to get rid of Touma/Othinus? Makes no sense at all!

Now I definitely wish that Othinus had actually died.

Edited by JG98 on Apr 8th 2021 at 2:16:35 AM

It's amusing because Index explicitly does have the ability to have power levels and relevance and stuff, the author just doesn't seem to see the point in doing so.

it's because mikoto is a more marketable heroine

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I certainly find Mikoto to be a lot more human and relatable than Touma, Hazamura or Accelerator.

Index is plenty useful when allowed to be. Touma usually goes out of his way to avoid involving her in stuff.

There is no point because THAT NEVER HAPPENED. We have Birdway's monologue, we know she was only aiming for Othinus, she had no intention of killing Touma. We don't know what the imitation Gungnir she was using would have done if used. Touma believed it would destroy the world because that's what Othinus's lance did, but we the reader have seen an imitation Gungnir used elsewhere that didn't do that.

Edited by Chaosjunction on Apr 8th 2021 at 8:53:31 AM

Ease up on the caps.

Yeah, in the first season you mostly see her actively participating in the last two arcs, otherwise she's not involved. She has more to do in the second season, but even then there are large chunks where she should be involved but isn't for whatever reason (usually "it's too dangerous for her").

I wonder if it's because the author thinks she could solve magic situations too fast, which doesn't make sense since she still participates in other magic arcs and we see that she doesn't know everything there is to know. Coupled with her weakness of being unable to defend herself, she isn't as sure a Win Button as she seems.

As clockwork said, Index can be used in interesting ways. Othinus taking over her role shows that.

Man, I recall reading the Agnese SS and seeing them being able to sense incoming danger by palm reading their own hands, and just thinking why Index never did this.

This is one of those things where people shouldn't go into intense reactions to stuff they have only been told briefly in summary about, and you're better served either getting the full context or reading for yourself.

What Leivinia and Index did is that they had no idea that it could do that because only Touma and Othinus were aware of that.

Hamazura and Touma are pretty relatable and normal, Touma especially in his downtime (I can't say the same in regard to his personality when in protagonism mode). Accelerator also isn't supposed to be relatable, that's not his function as a character and that's okay. He's there because he is interesting to watch.

Edited by allfictions on Apr 8th 2021 at 10:06:57 AM

I feel Kamachi let Othinus take over Index's role as Exposition Girl because he had already committed to Touma keeping Index out of his adventures as a matter of course, so he wanted a replacement that he wouldn't have to worry would die.

^^^ Yeah, I know, that's kind of what I'm getting at. Index absolutely has the potential to be a useful, regularly contributing character, but she isn't. Kamachi just doesn't want to use her and I'm not really sure why. I mean, I don't like her, but I don't think she's universally disliked or anything.

I guess she might solve things too easily?

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We mostly get to see Index contributing when there's large set piece battles or battles with multiple fronts, so like said, Kamachi probably thinks she'll solve stuff too easily for Touma.

Honestly I don't even get why she's treated like she can't defend herself. Didn't that whole killsat thing prove she actually is capable of magic?

She has the Collar on her, so she can't use it at will.

So, like, why not remove it?

Honestly I don't remember what the Collar is.

Don't think it can be. Touma broke it in the first volume, but it still exists in her, since we see Fiamma and Coronzon control her that way.

I'm pretty sure that collar was to make sure she stay under control of the Anglican Church. Touma probably can't get rid of it unless he wants to piss them off, and he doesn't want her to participate in battles to begin with so he has no motivation to

The Collar is already gone, Touma destroyed it in the first volume. It was what was forcing the memory erasure. But getting rid of that doesn't change the fact that Index was modified to only be able to use magic when John's Pen is active. That hasn't changed, even if the controllers for it are gone.

Started watching the first season of Railgun. I've noticed how Misaka, now the main character, is usually a collected and confident, if hot-headed and impulsive, character — unless Toma shows up, where she immediately loses her cool and turns into a blushing, stuttering textbook Tsundere.

Likewise, Kuroko is usually a dedicated and intelligent agent of Judgment — unless Misaka shows up, whereupon she promptly becomes a crazy lesbian stalker. If she was the same around Misaka as she was around everyone else, I might actually ship them together, instead of rolling my eyes.

Kuroko is one hell of a lot worse in the anime. She's actually pretty cool in the manga. Still not shippable though.

IIRC the explanation for how esper powers work involves the scale of difference between how they perceive the world and how the world actually is.

in other words, the stronger they are the weirder they are, as a general rule

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The other level fives are a bunch of psychopaths, paranoid freaks and delusional madmen. That always amused me because I'm still not sure if it's actually intentional on the author's part that the strongest espers are all lunatics in a way consistent with the world building.

Except Gunha. He's a good boi, it's just no one explains anything to him. (Then again I shouldn't be talking since all I've seen is the later 65% of Railgun T and clips of Index and Railgun, and weeks of research).

Has Gunha done anything in New Testament?

Gunha is very sweet but let's not pretend he's not absolutely insane

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Wait so delusion is a super power in Toaru?

Yeah, that's the whole point behind 'Personal Reality'

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He showed up to extinguish fires.