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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#193101: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:05:37 PM

Honestly, making Rock resist Ghost and Ghost weak to Rock would be pretty hilarious and not entirely farfetched.

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#193102: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:12:32 PM

Yeah Ghost honestly needs a nerf or two (THAT NERF ISN'T REMOVING ITS PHYSICAL MOVES BTW GF) since it's been broken since like, gen 7?

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#193103: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:14:28 PM

Gen VIII because they decided Pursuit should stop existing for some reason.

Heard that wasn't fun.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#193104: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:14:50 PM

It'd help Rock's defensive niche, at least.

I don't think Ghost needs the weakness, though.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#193105: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:16:53 PM

I dunno, giving Dragapult a weakness to Stealth Rock seems pretty fair.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#193106: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:21:52 PM

I'm not sure if it counts at "defensive," but Glastrier and Calyrex Ice worked extremely well with the Dynamax mechanics.

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#193107: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:24:54 PM

How's Cetitan by the way?

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#193108: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:26:41 PM

Niche. It's reliant on both Snow and Belly Drum to do its job in a tier where the best setter is Slowking (via Chilly Reception) and Unaware mons that resist its STAB (Skeledirge and Dondozo) are everywhere.

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#193109: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:53:07 PM

I wonder if Thick Fat has a small niche of its own, Fire neutrality and Burn immunity isn't too bad?

Edit: Wait what, Thick Fat doesn't give a Burn immunity, could've sworn it did!

Edited by alekos23 on Dec 1st 2022 at 9:02:37 PM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#193110: Dec 2nd 2022 at 12:26:26 PM

Huh. Not only did they not increase the spread of Zing Zap for some reason, it's now a signature move again. But for Pincurchin this time. Imagine sharing and then losing your signature move. Sucks to be you, Togedemaru.

Also, they turned a Pokestar Studios opponent into a Pokemon.

[down]I wouldn't really consider it a spoiler. Especially since for some reason the links don't work. It's effectively meaningless out of context. It's not like I said "They made Brycen-Man a Pokemon!"

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Dec 2nd 2022 at 2:31:35 PM

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#193111: Dec 2nd 2022 at 12:27:00 PM

Might wanna spoiler that.

Also your links are broken.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Dec 2nd 2022 at 3:27:16 PM

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KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#193112: Dec 2nd 2022 at 6:34:48 PM

Speaking of Pursuit, I never really considered it a big deal before they decide to remove it, since I preferred using stronger Dark type moves like Crunch. Then again, I never really played Competative, so I can get pretty out of the loop for it.

Edit: Also, what do you guys mean by "removed physical moves"? I didn't recall the newer games removing any Ghost moves as much as the other types.

Edited by KaabiiFan13 on Dec 2nd 2022 at 6:41:10 AM

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from πŸ€” Since: Nov, 2012
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#193113: Dec 2nd 2022 at 8:02:54 PM

[up][up][up] Honestly I've an easier time comparing Iron Thorns to a certain Aegir Iberian swordsman than I do Brycen-Man, and that is mostly because of the name and Paldea being based off Spain! You're gonna have to explain the joke here

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Dec 2nd 2022 at 8:12:20 AM

KaabiiFan13 Since: Apr, 2022
#193114: Dec 2nd 2022 at 8:36:01 PM

Speaking of Iron Thorns, when I first learned about it I thought it was not from the future, but instead an alternate reality where all the Mecha-Tyranitar movies actually happened.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#193115: Dec 2nd 2022 at 8:45:53 PM

It could be based on the mecha-tyranitar movies if the tulpa theory is correct

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#193116: Dec 3rd 2022 at 12:11:22 AM

Wait wait wait togedamaru doesn't learn zing zap anymore?

nooo why?

My favorite pikaclone getting done DIRTY.

EDIT: nvm I think it's because it's not in the game yet?

Edited by Vertigo_High on Dec 3rd 2022 at 12:12:20 PM

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#193117: Dec 3rd 2022 at 6:59:11 AM

Really wish that Zing Zap could be learned by the other electric types like Luxray and Pawmot who could both benefit from having it same with Aura Wheel, just have it so that the type changing gimmick only applies to Morpeko.

Edited by MisterZygarde64 on Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:01:29 AM

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#193118: Dec 3rd 2022 at 7:16:52 AM

I wish other types got the Water treatment of both special/physical having decent options with good accuracy. [lol]

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#193120: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:25:49 PM

Wild Charge should be a Double Edge variant. Volt Tackle should be a Head Smash variant. Will die on this hill.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#193121: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:31:40 PM

Volt tackle shouldn't be exclusive to pikachu either, but we can't get everything we want.

It can't even use volt tackle well

Edited by ultimatepheer on Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:32:14 AM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#193122: Dec 3rd 2022 at 5:51:15 PM

It can, equal offensive stats.

Honestly, just give Raichu Light Ball and enjoy the chaos.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#193123: Dec 3rd 2022 at 7:00:44 PM

You know, all this time, I could have sworn the pikachu line had higher special attack than physical attack.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#193124: Dec 3rd 2022 at 7:13:42 PM

Electric was a special type till Gen IV. Combined with Pikachu being the most iconic Pokemon and an iconic Electric type, and with the Electric type's specifications that Special Attack is usually higher... it's an easy mistake to make.

Doesn't help that Pikachu's electric moves used to be moves that would only feel Special instead of Physical for quite a while too. Even in Gen IV, they're all Special moves. The physical attacks are most often Normal moves anyway.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#193125: Dec 4th 2022 at 10:50:31 AM

Going over the new SV Pokemon, and it's led me to wonder... how many 3-stage lines were added per generation?


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