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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#38701: Jun 18th 2021 at 6:00:38 PM

I look forward to seeing how this progresses.

I also love how Cell has found his footing at last and can snipe just as hard as Freeza.

Probably helps that he can understand Freeza's thought process due to his soup of genetic samples.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38702: Jun 19th 2021 at 8:10:23 AM

So, where are King Cold and Dr. Gero?

HeyMikey Since: Jul, 2015
#38703: Jun 19th 2021 at 8:27:10 AM

For a Watsonian explanation, my guess is that HFIL has other divisions that are separated so that Goz and Mez won't be overwhelmed with too many MCM's to keep track of at once or that they are willingly going through the soul scrubber. If they're putting anyone Raditz level, that does basically include most of Freeza's army.

For a Doylist explanation, they may not have models ready or the voice actors are unable or unwilling to participate in this project or they only want to limit the cast to some of the more memorable characters in so that the entire thing doesn't get bloated.

Edited by HeyMikey on Jun 19th 2021 at 8:31:39 AM

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#38704: Jun 19th 2021 at 2:45:49 PM

Most likely, King Cold and Gero weren't powerful enough to need to go to HFIL.

He was in charge of the planetary trade organization because he's an excellent administrator.

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#38705: Jun 19th 2021 at 3:06:44 PM

It’s still a thing in the abridged series that he’s around Frieza’s ballpark when it comes to power.

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#38706: Jun 19th 2021 at 3:12:58 PM

Ben voiced Cold and he did depart from the group on pretty shaky terms so i guess that's one reason Cold isnt around.

As for Gero, isn't Chris Gerrero voicing characters on the real Dragon Ball? You know Toei doesnt like the slightest mention of DBZA so....

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#38707: Jun 19th 2021 at 3:19:51 PM

Gerrero does a lot of dub work for Funimation, as far as I know.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38708: Jun 19th 2021 at 4:11:23 PM

There's no way Cold was weaker than Raditz. He was weaker than Freeza but still supposed to be super powerful. Gero not being strong enough wouldn't make any sense either.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38709: Jun 19th 2021 at 4:14:55 PM

That depends on if we're talking about Dr. Gero, the guy, or Android 20. Freeza shows up in HFIL sans robot parts, so one would assume that Gero would arrive without any of his robot parts, which would make him very weak.

HeyMikey Since: Jul, 2015
#38710: Jun 19th 2021 at 5:27:52 PM

They are also missing any movie characters they deem existing. At the very least, that means Cooler, since Freeza still mentions him, despite his shaky canonicity. And Captain Ginyu, who was killed in the DBZA timeline. And again, most of Freeza's army, like Cui, still had a respectable power level (if respectable means Raditz), so if they were all in one spot, this would be less a cul-de-sac and more a sprawling suburb.

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#38711: Jun 19th 2021 at 5:52:31 PM

Ginyu's not here because Ginyu-in-frog isn't strong enough to qualify and frog-in-Ginyu is a good little angel.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#38712: Jun 19th 2021 at 8:21:46 PM

Clearly Cooler was too cool for hell so he got sent to Heaven

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jun 19th 2021 at 8:22:02 AM

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#38713: Jun 19th 2021 at 8:29:57 PM

But the Big Gheti Star allowed him to cheat death!

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#38714: Jun 19th 2021 at 8:31:44 PM

How could this be!?

Shitpost done.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#38715: Jun 19th 2021 at 10:03:54 PM

I liked the quick cut to Raditz when Cell mentioned his father was a brilliant scientist.

There's a moment near the end where Cell is about to tell Freeza who killed him, and it got me thinking, did canon Freeza ever find out who that super saiyan was, even by the end of Super?

At one point he sees Kid Trunks and finds him familiar, but I don't think he ever puts two-and-two together.

Edited by Moth13 on Jun 19th 2021 at 1:04:07 PM

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#38716: Jun 20th 2021 at 5:11:08 AM

I bet he was denial because that stupid monkey beat him

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#38717: Jun 20th 2021 at 12:27:35 PM

My favorite moment of the episode is how utterly unimpressed Frieza is to learn that Guru committed a genocide.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#38718: Jun 20th 2021 at 12:29:21 PM

I still love that Cell finally manages to start sniping back at Freeza.

If they're in a culdesac sitcom, the rivalry is born, cue the house party episode where they keep trying to one up each other.

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#38719: Jun 20th 2021 at 3:04:44 PM

The part where Freeza says that he chose evil while Cell is just programmed for it reminds me a lot of Complete Monster talk on this very wiki.

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#38720: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:15:56 PM

...So, how did Team Four Star handle the mouth flaps thing? I've heard that's a problem for many dubs.

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#38721: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:34:35 PM

Kaiser did a lot of lip flap editing for each episode. For a while, he did behind-the-scenes videos showing how the show was made; these videos had a whole section just for lip flaps alone.

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#38722: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:35:42 PM

That sounds like a huge hassle

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#38723: Jun 26th 2021 at 4:40:09 PM

Don't "authentic" dubs need to keep the lip flaps more or less the same as the source material, severely limiting the amount of alteration they can do? Because if you were working on something where you can modify the timing of the flaps and the pauses and basically the whole whole pace of the scene, then you could make the characters say whatever you wanted, which is exactly what most Abridged series do.

Edited by WillKeaton on Jun 26th 2021 at 5:47:28 AM

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#38724: Jun 27th 2021 at 3:16:28 AM

Yes, dubbing takes into account the lip flap motion. For any adaptational material, changing the flaps is simply too much work. They could do it, but they'll never financially recover from it.

Edited by devak on Jun 27th 2021 at 12:17:44 PM

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#38725: Jun 29th 2021 at 4:40:52 PM

Still the funniest exchanges I think in the entire work.

16: "If I cannot kill Goku then nobody can kill Goku!"

CELL: "We can split him 16 - in half - together!"

___ ___

VEGETA: "Didn't Freeza blow you up?"

KRILLIN: "Oh hooo hoooo yeah."

VEGETA: "-then you should really watch out for that, that's you!"

Edited by FOFD on Jun 30th 2021 at 6:44:47 AM

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