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Nomic Exitus Acta Probat from beyond the Void Since: Jan, 2001
Exitus Acta Probat
#51: Sep 24th 2010 at 6:15:22 AM

The Lamb in Revelation represents Jesus. He appears as a freakish looking lamb with multiple eyes and stuff (or rather, that's how it is described, but it's actually a metephore for something ot other).

CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#52: Oct 1st 2010 at 2:20:40 AM

I'd run this through John Baez's Crackpot Index, but I don't have the attention span to do so.

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#53: Oct 1st 2010 at 10:13:10 PM

Sounds like a good idea...

  • A -5 point starting credit.
  • 1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false. (Umm... That's going to take some back-tracking. Maybe later.)
  • 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous. (Ditto.)
  • 3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent. (See above.)
  • 5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction. (This could be quite a lot.)
  • 5 points for using a thought experiment that contradicts the results of a widely accepted real experiment. (I'm not sure if anything he says lines up close enough to reality for this to be applicable.)
  • 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards). ( grin )
  • 5 points for each mention of "Einstien", "Hawkins" or "Feynmann". (We might be able to rule this out, actually. Too soon to tell, though.)
  • 10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence). (He probably would do this if he ever got on the subject. He does it for other areas, at least.)
  • 10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity. (I don't think he's done this. I doubt he would, seeing as he thinks we're all academic evil.)
  • 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.) (Hmm... I don't remember him doing the first thing, but I think he's done the second.)
  • 10 points for mailing your theory to someone you don't know personally and asking them not to tell anyone else about it, for fear that your ideas will be stolen. (I kind of doubt he has or would do this.)
  • 10 points for offering prize money to anyone who proves and/or finds any flaws in your theory. (Ding ding ding!)
  • 10 points for each new term you invent and use without properly defining it. (Oh god, where would I start.)
  • 10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations". (He thinks the math we have is flawed, so I'm not sure where that puts us. He also blames language for his inability to communicate properly, so he comes close.)
  • 10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is "only a theory", as if this were somehow a point against it. (I don't think this is his "style".)
  • 10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn't explain "why" they occur, or fails to provide a "mechanism". (Haven't seen this. I think he would say that such a theory doesn't predict phenomena correctly even if it did.)
  • 10 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Einstein, or claim that special or general relativity are fundamentally misguided (without good evidence). (I think claims that he is wiser than any man past or present would count as a favorable comparison to Einstein. I wouldn't be surprised if he spoke out against general relativity, either.)
  • 10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a "paradigm shift". (I don't think so... He did claim to invent the 4 corner day, though.)
  • 20 points for emailing me and complaining about the crackpot index. (E.g., saying that it "suppresses original thinkers" or saying that I misspelled "Einstein" in item 8.) (I would have no clue. I don't think he would do this.)
  • 20 points for suggesting that you deserve a Nobel prize. (I don't know if he cares, but he probably thinks he deserves recognition on such a level.)
  • 20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence). (Same as what I said for Einstein.)
  • 20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact. (I think the bible myths count. The ones he thinks aren't lies, anyway.)
  • 20 points for defending yourself by bringing up (real or imagined) ridicule accorded to your past theories. (I don't remember specifically, but I think he's done this.)
  • 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.)
  • 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it. (The latter fits, but the former description might not. He seems more interested in attaching variations of "four" to things.)
  • 20 points for each use of the phrase "hidebound reactionary". (I haven't seen this. Doesn't seem like words he would use.)
  • 20 points for each use of the phrase "self-appointed defender of the orthodoxy". (See above.)
  • 30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.) (I'm not sure if evil, lying educators count.)
  • 30 points for suggesting that Einstein, in his later years, was groping his way towards the ideas you now advocate. (I don't think he cares much for Einstein.)
  • 30 points for claiming that your theories were developed by an extraterrestrial civilization (without good evidence). (I haven't seen him bring up aliens, but it would be pretty interesting if he did.)
  • 30 points for allusions to a delay in your work while you spent time in an asylum, or references to the psychiatrist who tried to talk you out of your theory. (I don't think he's been in the loony-bin. Yet.)
  • 40 points for comparing those who argue against your ideas to Nazis, stormtroopers, or brownshirts. (I think he's pretty sympathetic to the holocaust, actually.)
  • 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike. (Score!)
  • 40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on. (I don't think he's compared himself to Galileo, but the rest fits more or less.)
  • 40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.) (I don't think I've seen him state this outright.)
  • 50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions. (Yes!)

This would be way too much work to do in addition to the live blog, but he'd probably score pretty high.

Anyway, sorry I haven't been keeping up on this, but I've had school and I'm feeling kind of sick.

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CountDorku Official Tesladyne Employee TM from toiling in the Space Mines Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#54: Oct 4th 2010 at 11:08:48 PM

So that's something like 150 plus 800 or so for the All Caps Tax.

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doorhandle Gork Side 4 Life from Space Australia! Since: Oct, 2010
#55: Dec 4th 2010 at 2:35:20 AM

....I am so tempted to e-mail this clearly insane man and controdict his points...

Not going to, though. This thing hurts my brain already.

mmysqueeant I'm A Dirty Cowboy from Essairrrrcks Since: Oct, 2010
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
#56: Dec 4th 2010 at 4:46:37 AM

This thread is awesome. I've never got past page 2 myself, despite repeated attempts.

Good job!

I laughed at the Pokemon comment(s). I could probably put this message in every thread longer than 2 pages on this site and have it be accurate. There is an inexplicable wealth of pokemon humour on these fora.

As far as Gene Ray's One-ism is concerned, one could charitably interpret his "One is death" schtick as being about "One is sterile", or "One (as in self-contained system) is unable to change"

I'm using a Gene Ray expy in one of my sci-fi short stories, too. He turns out to be the closest to a hero we see in the tale, being an immortal slowly gone insane.

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AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#57: Dec 4th 2010 at 10:30:17 AM

....I am so tempted to e-mail this clearly insane man and controdict his points...
Gene Ray may be dead. The website hasn't been updated since 2006 or so, and he was "82 + CANCER".

I didn't write any of that.
silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#58: Dec 4th 2010 at 11:49:28 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's dead.

Currently taking a break from the site. See my user page for more information.
SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
The filidh that cam frae Skye
#59: Dec 4th 2010 at 12:01:48 PM

I actually saw some comments demanding that Obama resign, meaning that if he's dead, he must have died sometime this or last year.

Halper's Law: as the length of an online discussion of minority groups increases, the probability of "SJW" or variations being used = 1.
silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#60: Dec 4th 2010 at 5:42:53 PM

Last year, I'd assume.

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Haven Planescape Hijack Since: Jan, 2001
Planescape Hijack
#61: Dec 4th 2010 at 5:53:07 PM

Or he could just not want the man to represent Illinois. wild mass guess

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Gelzo Gerald Zosewater from the vault Since: Oct, 2009
Gerald Zosewater
#62: Dec 5th 2010 at 10:44:19 PM

Wow, people are still reading this? It's been a while since I posted anything.

I might reward the attention with another post, but I've got finals coming up soon. I should be free after the 13th, but don't hold your breath.

EDIT: Surely you guys have noticed all the thread locks here. I'm going to try working on transferring my Time Cube liveblog to the archive, and I'll post a link when it's up.

Here.

edited 15th Dec '10 8:09:11 PM by Gelzo

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