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Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#1976: Jul 18th 2011 at 12:03:25 PM

Venom is clear.

I think writers of Masquerade-involving fiction in general overestimate people's curiosity and underestimate their willingness to accept normal-sounding explanations. In college I had a class with a guy who had an enlarged, discolored, strangely-textured pinky finger on one hand. I asked him what it was (already more than most people he encounters probably do, since it was kind of rude). He said it was "a birth thing" - didn't have a name for the condition or more details about it. I bought this without further inquiry. If it happened that his finger was actually some kind of demonic graft or a sign that he was a changeling, this scene would not have played out any differently. Similarly, I expect that Molly's kid can tell his classmates that he is special and grows fast and have them mostly say "okay!". The ones who do not react that way will be few enough that they can just be disclosed to; it's not a huge deal.

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1977: Jul 18th 2011 at 4:11:02 PM

Swore it was green. Oh well, how much venom does it take to turn, is there an amount that it kills but not turns?

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
#1978: Jul 18th 2011 at 7:51:54 PM

[up][up]I was thinking that the cover ups are more to a) keep consistent concepts b) for the annoying meddling folk, but you really have a good point xP

[up]It causes wolf's flesh to turn green, but it isn't green itself.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1979: Jul 18th 2011 at 8:16:30 PM

I must not... oh fuck it. "Abner, Abner, the Brian boy just ate a cat."

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1980: Jul 18th 2011 at 8:26:22 PM

[up]*distracted* "stop putting your nose in people's business"

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#1981: Jul 18th 2011 at 8:40:11 PM

There is some unspecified minimum amount of venom to cause turning. Less than that was shown in canon to cause scarring (canon!Bella acquired a scar like that in book one). Presumably, a scar like that could be located in a sufficiently inopportune place that it would kill the victim, but if it's just on an arm or something it won't be really dangerous.

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1982: Jul 18th 2011 at 9:42:06 PM

  • Imagining Abner turning, sitting there with newspaper, Bishie Sparkle.*

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1983: Jul 19th 2011 at 4:47:53 PM

[up][up]Hey, does that scar mirrors Luminosity!Bella scar?

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#1984: Jul 19th 2011 at 8:21:09 PM

Not really, canon!Bella's scar was from James and I don't even remember which side she had it on.

AnyaReine Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1985: Jul 20th 2011 at 12:34:48 AM

And wasn't it on her wrist? Canon Bella that is.

I always assumed Luminosity's Bella's scar was between her thumb and forefinger. But I'm probably wrong.

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1986: Jul 20th 2011 at 2:11:23 AM

So is the scar like a bit of vampire tissue?

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1987: Jul 20th 2011 at 2:52:00 PM

[up]Vampire tissue is so drastically different from, it is much colder than human tissue, bellow room temperature, icy, it has a smooth stone texture, and is compared with steel... so I think that the scar has vampire-like atributes, but it isn't exactly "vampire tissue", maybe it could be compared with hybrid tissue.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#1988: Jul 20th 2011 at 4:36:10 PM

Canon!Bella's scar was cold, and sounded a little like vampire tissue but not all that much.

Luminous!Bella's scar from Cody's bite was on her wrist.

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1989: Jul 21st 2011 at 4:57:59 AM

So does the dhampyr uterinal shell serve any purpose?

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Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1990: Jul 21st 2011 at 9:42:55 AM

If a immortal child was blasted and ressurected (in a child's body) would they be able to mature mentally like a human kid?

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Alicorn Since: Aug, 2010
#1991: Jul 21st 2011 at 2:24:20 PM

Protection - in both directions. (A kicking half-vampire fetus would do even more damage than it normally does if the shell weren't in the way.)

Yes.

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1992: Jul 22nd 2011 at 7:44:24 AM

Something tells me vampire parents avoid jobs that take them away from their kid's for long periods of time.

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1993: Jul 22nd 2011 at 9:10:59 AM

[up]Is this because of the kinder garden thing?

I considered that possibility:

*Probably focused more in socialization between hybrids, than learning, not that it isn't a important part of the place. Socialization is also probably the bigger reason why parents would put kids there in first place, rather than needing the kids away.

EDIT: Also, in rather short time, there will be hybrids parents too, half-half-hybrids will have a greater need than usual if anything, due to the sleep pattern.

edited 22nd Jul '11 9:28:34 AM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1994: Jul 22nd 2011 at 9:19:52 AM

And plus it would be easier to miss huge parts of them growing up.

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1995: Jul 22nd 2011 at 6:17:17 PM

[up]So do you think is a bad idea? Maybe a hybrid school would be better?

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Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1996: Jul 22nd 2011 at 7:05:40 PM

No I mean a vampire would prefer a job where they aren't likely to have to spend large amounts of time away from their family, since hybrids grow up fast.

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AnyaReine Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1997: Jul 23rd 2011 at 6:12:54 AM

You're assuming that most vampires care that much about their kids. I always assumed that it was rare that Bella was able to put Elspeth so high in her priorities. Most vampires dont have that, especially if they aren't very parental.

edited 23rd Jul '11 6:13:41 AM by AnyaReine

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#1998: Jul 23rd 2011 at 6:32:09 AM

Than why do they bother? I mean a vampire usaully needs scientific intervention to have a kid, it isn't easy. And I imagine rasing a rapidly growing, super strong, natural predator takes work. They'd have to have parental feelings, the ones who have kid's at least. People like Joham being the exception. And plus we've seen a fair number of indications that vampires retain the ability to give parental love.

edited 23rd Jul '11 6:57:12 AM by Zolnier

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1999: Jul 23rd 2011 at 12:56:10 PM

[up][up]I don't think that Vampires caring for children is that hard, and that Bella isn't unusual in that. She was just unusual in the fact of how she raised Elspeth, due to Edward's aparent death.

That said.

  • Even if you want to parent your children, you might not want to do it 24 hours a day.
  • It might not be healthy for the child to stay 24 with her parents that way, children need to learn some idependency, even if they grow super fast.
  • Again, it would be healthy for the child to socialize with other children "in the know" and who have similar abilities.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop Since: Apr, 2009
The Odd Lad
#2000: Jul 23rd 2011 at 7:07:34 PM

Still, fly in fly out jobs seem like they would be avoided.

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