Type-Moon: Fate/stay night, Tsukihime, and Kara no Kyoukai discussion

What side story?

Gilgamesh's, here's a video (skip to 14:12 for the bit Omega's talking about).

.:: Gilgamesh's earrings look like padlocks.

Huh. From what Gilgamesh says, it seems that the reason he's now vulnerable to The Corruption is because of the nature of Moon Cell-summoned Servants as entities of digital data, unlike Servants in the physical world.

Just watched Arturia side story in English, and I have to say it's pretty funny, since it's mostly just Saber going around asking about Altera, beating people up when they pick a fight and reprimanding them. And then it ends with them meeting off-screen and Arturia deciding that Altera is alright and just needs someone to keep her company.

And then she goes to eat.

The funniest part is Artoria's method to gather info is basically the same as Mordred's. Like father like son.

I was surprised Artoria and Nero would get along so well, actually. They have like five lines of Nero accusing her and then they're all praises and thanks for each other. Maybe all those gag fancomics and the Mysterious Heroine X interludes spoiled my mindset.

Still, it'd have been nice to at least see Nero praising the beauty of Artoria's face.

Well, she wants to only asks some questions, but everyone she meets is oddly confrontational.

Oh yeah, Nero whines that Arturia is bullying her army, who's like "You! Stop abusing the poor A.I.! That's a bad thing,m you know?" And Nero is like "Shit, you right, I'm sorry." And Arturia even praises her for being a good Roman emperor.

Still, Caster fight is probably even funnier, since she talks shit before it starts, but after she gets beaten, she's like "In retrospect I should have seen this coming."

And of course, Archer's ending narration, where he explains how Arturia let Nero handle Altera, because... reasons, and totally not because she was busy eating.

Artoria's ending was oddly hilarious, if only because of Archer's Narration. My question is this though: How does Artoria get a Hakuno with her? Did she nab them from Nero/Tamamo?

"Hey I am the strongest Saber around barring maybe Rama, you should ditch that loser Nero and hang out with me instead."

"K."

The game even calls her the Top Servant.

The sub story really makes it clear why she doesn't show up in the main routes, as she would totally hijack the story if she did.

It's funny that Artoria is still considered the strongest Saber when Altera exists.

Like, comparing the two:

If we go by that, Altera is technically an upgraded Artoria

edited 2nd Feb '17 10:16:39 AM by BlackSunNocturne

They seem pretty close in most stats (with Artoria winning in a few cases).

Altera does with having actual divinity and having a Noble Phantasm that's both Anti-fortress and anti-army, when Artoria has only anti-fortress.

I'd say if they'd actually fought it'd be pretty close.

Statistically, she is bit more of a side-grade. If she was an upgrade, all of her stats would be either equal or higher than Artoria's.

edited 2nd Feb '17 10:35:17 AM by TPPR10

Stats don't mean that much.

And Divinity doesn't actually do much by itself.

edited 2nd Feb '17 10:36:12 AM by Arha

RE Artoria and Nero meeting face to face: Any Lampshade Hanging on their physical similarities and dissimilarities? Because I can't help but think of Crazy Clover Club's take on their first-time encounter.

There was no lampshading of it at all

Ah yes,Nero's quite the reasonable Roman Emperor.Your compatriots would surely agree Saber!

Probably the most interesting part of the side story lore-wise, is Archimedes mentioning that Arturia was the one who fought the White Titan back in the day. Of course we get no details, which is irritating.

He also tries to get her killed by the way of sicking Gilgamesh and Iskander on her... which doesn't end so well for them.

Kinda shame we don't actually get to see Arturia confrontation with Altera, even if it was only talking and not a fight.

edited 2nd Feb '17 10:51:23 AM by Shlugo_the_great

Not Artoria. The original wielder of Excalibur.

Also, I get the feeling Artoria and Altera's meeting probably was something like Artoria seeing the same thing in Altera that Jeanne did.

No, he actually talks about Arturia having a connection with the White Titan after having fought it many years earlier. I was also surprised by that.

Oh please,it was totally Artoria.It's her damned job.

... So wait. Does that mean ZA WARUDO summoned Counter-Guardian Artoria to deal with that shit?

'cause if not: Lol we just fucked our timeline more than Doctor Who does on a daily basis

Either Counter Guardian, or the new fancy Grand thing.

Plot twist about reincarnations or other spiritual stuff here.

Goddess Excalibur is a thing,just like Goddess Rhon