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Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#31576: Apr 19th 2019 at 7:59:05 PM

New strip: http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-04-20

"... and it was all a game! ... OR WAS IT?! "

(Link fixed. Thanks, TargetmasterJoe!)

Edited by Hexapodia on Apr 20th 2019 at 6:21:58 AM

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#31577: Apr 19th 2019 at 9:24:43 PM

Don't pull that shit, Tats. You aren't that smart.

Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#31578: Apr 19th 2019 at 10:21:52 PM

Keep her away from the Warhammer games. No telling what she'd bring back with her.

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#31579: Apr 19th 2019 at 11:35:02 PM

You know, it kind of felt like Tat took a middle road with this and it reminds me of the Karate Kid. Miyagi sat Daniel down and had this talk with him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lQSxNdr3c

Tats keeps on doing this song and dance. Either he's full into this crazy or not. Are you going to commit to rad feminism or not? Because not choosing either direction is really, REALLY boring.

However, I am going to put a half-check on there for psychopathic tendencies (as well as the members of his forum) for fantasizing about killing men but not committing. He did an ass-pull with the "Game Over" nonsense but he couldn't even really go full out with THAT either! He still hints that video games interact with reality. Except when it doesn't. You have no rules and when you have no rules your writing is boring.

What happened to you? Did you just stop caring? This is why Bill Watterson would go on vacation so he wouldn't get himself into this level of banality.

Some advice, Tats? (Besides getting over your arrogance and realize that you aren't as good as you think you are; your falling traffic is huge proof of that). How about you sit down and make a list of things that you can do and things you can never do? How about putting limits on your lore? How about you have a plan? Please, PLEASE tell me that this wasn't you having a plan. You have horrible plans, Tats. If you were an explorer and we followed you we would end up being the Donner party. Only worse. Because at least there was an ending to the Donner party.

Edited by Gibson35 on Apr 19th 2019 at 11:36:31 AM

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
Dragon573 Sanity not included from Sitting at a bonfire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Sanity not included
#31580: Apr 20th 2019 at 2:03:31 AM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=3o55vi0ln4ylpaphr0ivns48&page=1263#comment-31566

Dammit, Metalix! You had one job, and you used the wrong saiyan! I duck out briefly and our standards go to shit!

-grumbling- Jeez, gotta do everything myself.

It's kind of funny. Sufficiently advanced stupidity is like sufficiently advanced science; eventually, you find something you can't solve.
NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#31581: Apr 20th 2019 at 2:28:30 AM

Wow,

This storyline has been so cliched we could use it as an example of T Vtropes being overused by the forces of bad writing

What a flipping disappointment

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hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#31582: Apr 20th 2019 at 3:42:23 AM

Well, unless there's a zombie in the house or Little Evil got some of his old personality back and bit Tange in the leg, there's no ambiguity left, is there?

It had to be real. I know Tats, you WANT to have both real and unreal at the same time, but you CAN'T. WANT, but CAN'T.

Tats is breaking so many basic rules of writing you'd need to start a wiki to document it all at this point.

NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#31583: Apr 20th 2019 at 7:48:40 AM

Can the creator of a work count as the author of a mary sue filled fanfic in the same work?

Because for this stuff fanfic would be a step up in writing quality

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Metalix Since: Apr, 2012
#31584: Apr 20th 2019 at 9:30:39 AM

[up]Sword of Truth, Anything by Ayn Rand, Twilight, countless webcomics, pretty much anything where the author gets too invested in their own politics being in the story.

Edited by Metalix on Apr 20th 2019 at 9:30:57 AM

AsherTye Since: Nov, 2013
#31585: Apr 20th 2019 at 11:08:56 AM

[up][up] i believe they call those Canon Sues, or The Wesley.

I'd be willing to cut Tats a break here in saying that D-Man used his own powers to alter reality enough for the game to straddle the line for Tange and get the message to her, but the game is such an old staple of the comics and a mass produced one at that.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#31586: Apr 20th 2019 at 12:38:40 PM

I was reading How NOT to Write a Novel, and I found the perfect quote describing the situation Sinfest is in these days:

Sometimes an author is torn between the desire to present certain material and a guilty awareness that others will not approve. In an attempt to deflect criticism, he apologizes as he goes, poining out that the minstrel show, strip club visit, or cheap, all-purpose servants in a Third World setting are terribly, terribly distasteful to him, and he disapproves as much as anyone - more! Meanwhile, he continues to wallow in these scenes, exposing what everyone instantly recognizes as the world of his fantasies. The result is often reminiscent of a sixties sexploitation movie on the dangers of promiscuity.

It is best to assume that you are fooling nobody, because you are fooling nobody. If you are irresistibly drawn to exploitative material, you are far better off openly celebrating your sleaziness than using your fiction to stage a war between your id and your superego.

This is basically what Tats is doing. His radfem pretensions are but a fig leaf for his softcore porn exploitation webcomic. No one is fooled, and the fig leaf rather draws attention to what is ostensibly being covered up.

Optimism is a duty.
NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#31587: Apr 20th 2019 at 1:45:48 PM

I think Redmess has discovered Tat's writing Bible!

Only Tat's misread the entire purpose of the book in the first place

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#31588: Apr 20th 2019 at 2:05:42 PM

@Hexapodia: your link's a little wacko. Let me fix that:

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-04-20

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#31589: Apr 20th 2019 at 4:05:21 PM

Redmass, I have to say that seems to fit Tat very, very well. If you think of it that way too, Johnbies not only represent male patriarchy (eye roll) but also represents his critics and detractors. It makes me realize the violence he enjoys isn't against men indiscriminately (although that is there in the background) but rather fantasies of violence towards his critics. Let's not forget that dudebros (his first detracors who wished forhis old style) weren't a thing until his first freak out and the Johnbies (those from the blue forum who took issue with his breed of feminism) weren't a thing until the second exodus of fans. I think he does the pull back thing because he thinks wanting to do violence is a pAtRiArChAl Im Pe Ri Ti Ve (hurr de durr) and he feels guilt over it. Tat is steadily falling to Chris-Chan levels. He's just better about hiding it. Just look at how often you see him attacking Johnbies. He's literally drawing out his fantasies but keeps acting like in the context of the strips world it never happened. He's a sick puppy.

Anyways, Redmass, great post. That gave me a way to delve deeper into his psyche.

Edited by Gibson35 on Apr 20th 2019 at 4:33:00 AM

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#31590: Apr 20th 2019 at 6:25:10 PM

I'll repeat my prediction: Unless Tats puts it off for two or three weeks as he did the New Years strips, tomorrow's color comic will be "HE IS RISEN" ... featuring the Pimp.

Overlord347 Since: May, 2013
#31591: Apr 20th 2019 at 9:21:31 PM

[up]Well, sorry Hexapodia, but looks like you are not yet psychic.

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-04-21

And in other news, this plotline continues to make no sense.

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#31593: Apr 20th 2019 at 10:57:02 PM

[up][up] Eh, give him three weeks ... He's always late.

AsherTye Since: Nov, 2013
#31594: Apr 20th 2019 at 11:25:34 PM

So somehow both Tange and Slick simply slipped into this augmented reality? I could understand that better if Slick woke up at his computer since, ya know, computer porn was what Tats was letting us believe sent him to Hell. But he was actually just sleeping on the job at work? How does that lead into Tange's game?

NeedsAirCon from Access Denied....Human Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
#31595: Apr 20th 2019 at 11:53:56 PM

Because Tats must have been smoking crystal meth when he came up with this garbage

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#31596: Apr 20th 2019 at 11:56:27 PM

From a crappy dream to a crappy reality, Slick can't win.

Gibson35 King Kitty from Hunting in the jungle for s'mores Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
King Kitty
#31597: Apr 21st 2019 at 12:41:56 AM

I can't believe he actually went the "it was all a dReAm" route...

I mean...I CAN. But is he just doing bad writing on purpose?

Is his intent to make a comic equivalent of "The Room"?

Is it wrong that I'm actually intrigued?

As much as I think it's garbage the comic keeps me reading.

Edited by Gibson35 on Apr 21st 2019 at 12:44:59 PM

I just came to talk about how horrible Sinfest is.
Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#31598: Apr 21st 2019 at 12:57:25 AM

[up] And a spectacular train wreck keeps me watching.

Hexapodia Since: Jun, 2016
#31599: Apr 21st 2019 at 12:59:26 AM

Now ... On Monday will we see Blue tripping over a pitchforked zombie in the mansion?

hayate666 New England Devil Stork Conservationist Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
New England Devil Stork Conservationist
#31600: Apr 21st 2019 at 3:07:59 AM

Tats, not being content to suck with a single All Just a Dream, decides to go for a double!

Tange's video game is connected to Slick's "post porn depression" inflicted dream world which really didn't have anything to do with porn whatsoever since he fell asleep STANDING at work.

Shovelling coal in hell? Zombies escaping into the mansion? Nah man, that's hard to write about! Tats would have to change things and have consequences for characters! Better to use possibly the most cliche, lazy and hated cop-out in writing TWICE IN A ROW.

I've said it before, but it's impossible to understate how much Tats sucks as a writer!

Redmess Apr 20th 2019 at 9:38:40 PM

I was reading How Not To Write A Novel, and I found the perfect quote describing the situation Sinfest is in these days:

Sometimes an author is torn between the desire to present certain material and a guilty awareness that others will not approve. In an attempt to deflect criticism, he apologizes as he goes, poining out that the minstrel show, strip club visit, or cheap, all-purpose servants in a Third World setting are terribly, terribly distasteful to him, and he disapproves as much as anyone - more! Meanwhile, he continues to wallow in these scenes, exposing what everyone instantly recognizes as the world of his fantasies. The result is often reminiscent of a sixties sexploitation movie on the dangers of promiscuity.

It is best to assume that you are fooling nobody, because you are fooling nobody. If you are irresistibly drawn to exploitative material, you are far better off openly celebrating your sleaziness than using your fiction to stage a war between your id and your superego.

This is basically what Tats is doing. His radfem pretensions are but a fig leaf for his softcore porn exploitation webcomic. No one is fooled, and the fig leaf rather draws attention to what is ostensibly being covered up.

Very interesting find! It's a good insight in why Tats keeps drawing the naked ladies for feminism!

Edited by hayate666 on Apr 21st 2019 at 7:06:14 PM


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